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does anyone know anything about maalot baltimore seminary? what type of girls go there? are they yeshivish? open-minded, more to the chilled side? is there a dress code? is the actual seminary very frum? are the girls nice? any information would be MUCH APPRECIATIVE THANK U SOO MUCH!
I know a handful of girls that went there. They’re all very nice. I don’t know much else about it though, sorry.
curious245 – its unaccredited but a great way to learn hebrew subjects.
Sparkly, are you sure it’s unaccredited? I have a few friends who got their (accredited) degrees there. They’ve gone on to prestigious graduate schools without a problem.
Never mind; I see it’s from four years ago.
gofish – yes because i know all the colleges these girls go on to and they are not the best. only some of them get into towson and towson isnt even a top college but its pretty good. umbc MUCH better and most of them dont end up going there or its graduate school university of maryland or if you want the ivy league hopkins as hard as harvard to get into for med school. what did these girls you know do after they went to maalot? but i would 100% recommend it for hebrew subjects.
Sparkly, once again, just because a college is not prestigious or elite does not mean it is unaccredited.
These colleges are fully accredited.
I can give you a partial list of girls I know who went to Maalot – I’m including the Yerushalayim branch as well – and:
– got accepted to John Hopkins for premed
-got accepted to LIU for an MSW
-went to Wurtzweilers for an MSW
-got accepted to Columbia for psychology
-3 who went to Columbia for education
-got accepted to John Hopkins, I’m not sure what field
-got accepted (and I think went) to Boston University
-went to Penn
These are off the tip of my head. There are many more. Believe it or not, there are many very bright students who go to less than stellar colleges and get into fantastic graduate schools.
gofish – still dont believe it sorry.
No need to apologize, I understand it is difficult to let go of preconceived notions.
Of course though, as a bona fide college student, surely you wouldn’t draw firms conclusions without at least doing some proper research and investigation. Firmly deciding that something is true or false even when faced with evidence to the contrary, without bothering to verify or legitimately disclaim, is a practice of the uneducated masses, not students of proper universities.
You can start your investigation with the Maalot website: “Maalot students have gone on to graduate schools such as NYU, Long Island University, Columbia, Adelphi, University of Southern California, University of Maryland, Touro and Hunter College. They have pursued professions in education, social work, counseling, nursing, occupational and speech therapy, graphic and web design, computer science, business and others.”
You can then speak with Maalot students, who after all are primary sources.
Let me know your findings. 😉
gofish – ive already done this many times before. first of all DONT listen to the maalot site they can just say stuff even if it isnt true. and the girls went to maalot got their ba then went to ccbc got their pre req done and then went to graduate school. so just proving my point.
I’ve given you a list of people I personally know who have gone to the colleges listed above. NONE of them went to CCBC, they went to graduate school right after graduating Maalot. They did their prerequisites in Maalot.
Like I said, you don’t have to believe me. I definitely will not out myself to post my acceptance letter to a highly prestigious graduate school in a competitive field.
I just wanted to point out the fallacies in your argument. I have brought you proof, (or as strong of a proof as I could on an anonymous online forum), and you claim that my proof is invalidated by the fact that you know other people who have not had the same experience.
Reframe that approach in a different conversation, and you get something that sounds like this:
Person A: I know a few people who went to Bnos Pesha and hated it.
Person B: That’s sad. The people I know who went to Bnos Pesha loved it and gained a lot there.
Person A: Nuh uh, it can’t be, because the people I know who went there hated it!
Person B: Well, the girls I know who went there loved it, and they <insert list of things they achieved at Bnos Pesha.>
Person A: No, I know all the girls in Bnos Pesha hated it, because I know some girls there who hated it. It can’t be that you know girls who loved it.
Now for the nimshal.
I get that the people you know who have gone to Maalot went to community college afterwards to do their prereqs. <b>But</b> that doesn’t mean that when I say that I know other people who got accepted to top ranking graduate schools directly from Maalot, that what I am saying is a lie because you know people who did differently.
All I was saying is that it is possible for students to go to Maalot for their bachelors, and get into great graduate schools – without having to go to community college or elsewhere in between. I myself have done this.
It may not be half the girls. It may not be most of them. But it is definitely possible, and has already been done by tens of Maalot students I know. To discount what I am saying by extrapolating from the girls you know – which is not the whole Maalot student body – to insist that every single one of them must have had the same experience as what you’ve been exposed to or led to understand- is not a working argument.
gofish – okay. so what degrees and schools did these girls get into?
It is my understanding, that while they are not accredited themselves, they work through an accredited college fr their english courses, where the students do get college credits.
barryLS1 – yes they work with ccbc so you just proved my point but now they switched to gratz if thats any good…
Sparkly, see my list above. I’ve already written it.
And no, Maalot themselves is a partner school with Thomas Edison State University and therefore all of Maalot’s classes themselves are accredited. You can complete a full degree at Maalot. While Maalot is not a college in it of itself, their classes are fully accredited classes and they get full credit for it.
I may be completely misunderstanding you, Sparkly, or we’re just going around in circles.
gofish – thomas edison isnt accredited.
False.
Sparkly: A simple Google search indicates that they are accredited.
Sparkly….
Thomas Edison State University IS accredited by the Middle States Commission on Higher Education…the same people who accredit Penn and Princeton and many more
It seems there is some confusion here. Maybe this will help clear things up:
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(of a person, organization, or course of study) officially recognized or authorized.
Sparkly: My daughter went to Ma’alot for the year after seminary, got her undergrad from Gratz, with courses taken at Ma’alot. She was accepted by both Hopkins and U of MD Nursing schools. Hopkins is rated # 1, U of MD is # 8 link removed So I am not sure why you seem to have a less than positive take on Ma’alot, but it served my daughter well – as well as many of her friends.
Sparkly, I think I may have misunderstood some of what you were saying.
Maalot= the institution itself is not accredited. That is true.
Maalot classes = are all accredited, even Hebrew ones, and the credits are granted through accredited colleges. (Including Thomas Edison, which has regional accreditation, the highest level of accreditation in the United States.)
Maalot students can get all the credits they need to get their fully accredited BA in Maalot.
Many Maalot students who have gotten their degree only through Maalot’s classes have gone on to prestigious graduate schools.
And I think that’s that.
Have a great Shabbos everyone, and an easy, meaningful fast. May we be zoche to celebrate Tisha Ba’av next year with much joy and gladness in the rebuilt and redeemed Yerushalayim.
Dapr – what about her classes thru ccbc which im sure and know that she probably took her biology classes thru them?
What about them? (Some she took while as a senior in high school.) Ma’alot puts a program together and almost all classes – even though the credits were granted by a different institution – were taught physically at Maalot. And at the end of the program, Maalot works to ensure that all credits are transferred from wherever – whether it be seminary, Gratz, Edison, CCBC, BCCC, etc. – and the student gets an undergrad degree. And with that degree, you can be accepted into good masters programs. So, who cares who gave the credits for the courses? Clearly Hopkins did not have an issue with it, at least in my daughter’s case. Again, not really clear on what the problem or issue is with Maalot.
Dapr – the program that she got into all you need is pre req. she took them thru ccbc.
Not sure what you mean. I am not aware of a college that will accept you for a masters program without taking core requirements, like math, sciences, usually English, etc.. Basically, you need an undergrad degree with some certain prerequisite courses as well. As I said, Maalot puts the package together so you can get a degree and facilitates having classes at their facility. So yes, one could go anywhere and get an undergrad degree. One could go to CCBC also – but you won’t get into a masters nursing program if you only take science courses at a community college and no other course work anywhere. As I said, not sure what your point is.
I don’t think a girls’ seminary should have the same name as an non-tznius bathing suit.
Dapr – i was saying that girls from maalot take pre req at ccbc and go to maalot at the same time. but the way it ends up being they end up getting their pre req done at ccbc which is the most important stuff and if their doing pt they get their ba from maalot and their ccbc pre req classes done and then get accepted or in that girls case her nursing pre req done thru ccbc and her ba at maalot. but my point is still valid you cant go thru maalot to get in you also NEED to go to ccbc.
does anyone know about the wit program?
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