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March 31, 2011 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm #596054popa_bar_abbaParticipant
I realized, that my friends all know I lie, but some of you might not.
So, here is my ?????: Everything I say on this site may not be true. Except my halacha stuff, I take that seriously.
April 1, 2011 1:19 am at 1:19 am #1105296pumperMemberthanks for the disclaimer- we didn’t realize 😉
April 1, 2011 1:29 am at 1:29 am #1105297zaidy78ParticipantPopa, is your statement a lie, meaning, in reality you never say a lie and always the truth?
April 1, 2011 1:32 am at 1:32 am #1105298deiyezoogerMemberahah, that’s nice, thanks for bringing that point out to us,we will be more careful from now on……
April 1, 2011 1:36 am at 1:36 am #1105299HaLeiViParticipantSo you mean there are still chain saws?
April 1, 2011 1:44 am at 1:44 am #1105300popa_bar_abbaParticipantSo you mean there are still chain saws?
I meant more along the lines of that I know nothing about ambidextrous people.
April 1, 2011 1:53 am at 1:53 am #1105301hanibParticipantwait, is the above statement a lie or the truth?
April 1, 2011 1:55 am at 1:55 am #1105302hanibParticipantrealized, that my friends all know I lie, but some of you might not.
So, here is my ?????: Everything I say on this site may not be true.
is that the truth or a lie?
April 1, 2011 1:57 am at 1:57 am #1105303popa_bar_abbaParticipantwait, is the above statement a lie or the truth?
Sorry, the tautology does not work here, since I didn’t say I always lie.
Therefore, if I am lying here, it actually is self fulfilling. So either way it is true.
April 1, 2011 1:59 am at 1:59 am #1105304tro11MemberOh yeah, and also they get binah yeseira!
April 1, 2011 2:02 am at 2:02 am #1105305hanibParticipant🙂
April 1, 2011 2:04 am at 2:04 am #1105306wanderingchanaParticipantTwo things come to mind:
1) it’s still Adar
2) is it April 1 yet where you live?
April 1, 2011 4:21 am at 4:21 am #1105308☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantpba,
Are your hashkofos, even if exaggerated, basically real, or totally made up?
An example which comes to mind is that the lady whose daughter’s seat was stolen should have thrown the alteh bubby, who stole the seat, down the steps. Obviously this was exaggerated, but did you really feel that she should not have been accommodating despite the bubby’s rudeness? (If you don’t mind, please answer this one seriously.)
April 1, 2011 4:26 am at 4:26 am #1105309popa_bar_abbaParticipantDY: My hashkafos are serious also.
I think most people would have given in in that case.
I am actually unsure if it is the right thing to do. It probably depends why you are giving in. If it is because you aren’t able to stand up for yourself, then I would actually advise not giving in.
As far as the old lady, I am convinced she is a horrible bully.
(But no, I would not throw her down the stairs. I can exaggerate sometimes.)
April 1, 2011 4:44 am at 4:44 am #1105310☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAs far as the old lady, I am convinced she is a horrible bully.
I’m actually not convinced of anything, because we only hear one side of the story in these cases. But given the story as presented, yes, she sounds like a horrible bully, and yes, one should have the fortitude to stand up to that, but if it were my wife and daughter, (or me in an equivalent situation,) I would hope for the sake of middos and chinuch we would give in, despite not being intimidated.
Thanks for your response.
May 8, 2011 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #1105311Shticky GuyParticipantPoppa is your statement a lie
This reminds me of what I heard re what ??? ???? said in ????? (or !??????)
??? ????? ????? ?? ???? ???
“I say in my haste that all men are liars”.
Someone said that if all men are liars then that he is including himself, and if so the statement could be untrue. But if its untrue then he’s not a liar so he said the truth. But if he said the truth then its true that all men are liars in which case his statement would be untrue… Etc etc etc.
May 8, 2011 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm #1105312pascha bchochmaParticipantGood to know.
in full disclosure: I occasionally stretch facts so as to make myself less recognizable.
May 8, 2011 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm #1105313☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBut if he said the truth then its true that all men are liars in which case his statement would be untrue… Etc etc etc.
That’s not logically correct. A liar is not necessarily someone’s whose every statement is untrue. If it were that way, you’d be right. However, a liar could be someone who sometimes lies and sometimes tells the truth.
May 9, 2011 3:30 am at 3:30 am #1105314Midwest2ParticipantThis begins to sound like something from my freshman logic class of the Cretan saying “All Cretans are liars.”
PBA, are you running some kind of experiment?
May 9, 2011 4:14 am at 4:14 am #1105316☕️coffee addictParticipantDaas,
it would make sense if it was a habitual liar
May 9, 2011 4:24 am at 4:24 am #1105317☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantmbachur,
Yes, but who says it has to mean that?
May 9, 2011 9:54 am at 9:54 am #1105318hanibParticipantmore complicated is the fact:
a) i think that whatever i think is true
b) i also think that not everything i think is true, is in fact true
And that is the truth. 🙂
November 10, 2011 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #1105319✡onegoal™ParticipantPopa- Did you know that your screen name next to your post, it is a link to this thread?
November 10, 2011 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #1105320charlie brownMemberonegoal, I pointed that out too here:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/joseph-1#post-321849
I posted that before I saw your post here.
It’s hysterical that the mods did that!
November 10, 2011 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #1105321✡onegoal™ParticipantCB- It sure is, chocandpatience has a link in her name to the second page of decaffeinated coffee.
November 10, 2011 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #1105322popa_bar_abbaParticipantPopa- Did you know that your screen name next to your post, it is a link to this thread?
Actually I didn’t. That is hilarious. I must have missed it when Charlie brown pointed it out also.
October 16, 2012 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm #1105323WiseyParticipantKol Haodom Kozev
The rule is that
??? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ????? ?? ??
basically ‘all’ doesn’t mean ‘all’
Anyways we know that dovid hamelech wasn’t a liar.
Also, ??? refers to the lower level of civilization related to ????.
February 13, 2013 1:04 am at 1:04 am #1105324ybrooklynteacherMemberOnegoal, it just happened to me too!!!
Just wondering what happens when you guys click on my name?
February 13, 2013 1:14 am at 1:14 am #1105325ZABACHURParticipantIt brings you to….wait for it….your profile
December 6, 2013 6:56 am at 6:56 am #1105327👑RebYidd23ParticipantIf all liars lied consistently, we would tag them and reverse whatever they say.
December 6, 2013 7:17 am at 7:17 am #1105328☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThat’s why popa says he sometimes lies – to throw us off. I think I know when he’s lying, but I guess I’ll never know for sure.
For example, I think he’s a man, and if he’s married, it’s to only one wife.
December 6, 2013 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm #1105329👑RebYidd23ParticipantPopa, I believe, is a retired poltergeist with two and a half wives, the half being a woman without a tongue.
December 6, 2013 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm #1105330Shopping613 🌠ParticipantEveryone knows Popa lies….seriouy, who dosent make up funny stories here????? Half the stories I say arent true or the details are changed so its harder to figure out my identity…..
December 6, 2013 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #1105331writersoulParticipantYou know that feeling when your friend tells you that she was glancing around the CR, that she opened up a thread in which you have posted a lot, and that she read your post that REFERENCED HER? You start to wish that you did a lot more lying on YWN.
(Hashem loves me- she didn’t figure out it was me. If she’s have known to look it would’ve taken her about thirty seconds.)
December 7, 2013 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm #1105332Shopping613 🌠ParticipantI also let my brother and friends post occasionly…..
May 23, 2014 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #1105334Patur Aval AssurParticipant“The rule is that
??? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ????? ?? ??”
??? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ??? ????
May 25, 2014 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #1105335the-art-of-moiParticipantTranslation please, Patul Aval Assur?
May 25, 2014 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm #1105336Patur Aval AssurParticipantWisey said that the pasuk of “Kol Haadam Kozev” doesn’t show that EVERYONE is a liar because we have a rule ??? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ????? ?? ?? which means that you can’t apply a rule to every individual case even if the rule seems to say that it applies to every case. I responded back that (based on the Kitzur Klalei Hatalmud in the back of Berachos) the rule of ??? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ????? ?? ?? only applies to a statement made by a Tanna because Tannaim were notorious for talking in abridged ways, but not to a statement made by an Amora because Amoraim do not talk in the same abridged way. Now it happens to be that here we are discussing Dovid Hamelech and perhaps he spoke like a Tanna and therefore the rule would apply, but I cannot say so for certain.
May 25, 2014 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #1105337the-art-of-moiParticipantOh. Thanks!
May 25, 2014 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm #1105338popa_bar_abbaParticipantkol hakozev, bmumo kozev
July 27, 2014 11:01 pm at 11:01 pm #1105339Patur Aval AssurParticipant“because Tannaim were notorious for talking in abridged ways, but not to a statement made by an Amora because Amoraim do not talk in the same abridged way”
Maharatz Chayes Sotah 2a:
???? ??”? ????? ???? ???? ????? ???’ ??? ???? ??? ????? ?? ????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ??????? ???? ??”? ???? ???? ???”? ??? ?? ??? ???? ????? ???? ???? ???? ????? ??????? ??? ?? ????? ??????? ?????
July 28, 2014 12:31 am at 12:31 am #1105340pupa bar albert einsteinMemberALL U GUYS ARE SO LAME AND STUPID
July 28, 2014 1:44 am at 1:44 am #1105341👑RebYidd23ParticipantI can walk fine and I’m brilliant.
July 28, 2014 2:11 am at 2:11 am #1105343TheGoqParticipantWhat about the girls?
November 12, 2014 5:23 am at 5:23 am #1105344☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant?? ??? ????? ???”?
October 15, 2015 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #1105345HashemisreadingParticipantthe girls are lamer and stupider
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