Losing the battle against technology? ⚔️ 📵

The main difference is two feet versus four feet.

US number to US number only.

If you don’t want people “nitpicking”, use the right word, please

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I guess you’ve never heard of birds?

No. I’m not joking.

WinnieThePooh,

Anyway, at work, to access our network when off premises, we have to insert a passcode that is generated by this little token. Today I was informed that they are phasing out these tokens, and instead everyone will be able to get these passcodes via an application on their smartphones.

Can you ask your employer’s IT department if there is a desktop/browser version of the app that can be used on a laptop, or if the passcode can be sent to an email address rather than phone number?

uummm iphone ?

When i hear the word technology, It means ANY technology to me. A GPS in the car means as much technology as a smartphone or a laptop or some Holographic image

Smartphone means smartphone (Or sometimes things like cell phone, iPhone , Android or similar words).

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RY,Avi – I don’t get why you are throwing around those comments? Her feelings are very personal and deep, if you don’t think they are founded, why make jokes about them? Posters throwing in comments about horse and buggy and parchment is just disrespectful to her question and feelings on this. Nobody doesn’t know what type of technology she is referring to and nobody thinks she is talking about ink and parchment.

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Kindly stop writing silly comments about things that are clearly not the subject of this discussion.

We cannot hide our heads in the sand about the very real spiritual dangers posed by unfiltered internet access.

Now, how to realistically combat one’s exposure to spiritually harmful material will differ greatly depending on one’s exact circumstances. I’d say this is as good of a time as any to follow the Mishnah in Pirkei Avos: Asay licha Rav.

Actually it didnt change anything

When using terms, you need to speak using proper terms everyone understands.

Technology to most just means some computer equipment and a Car has a computer in it.

This passcode OP is taking about is sent STRICTLY via Smart phone. Somehow it links your account and your cell phone #. I have it for my Yahoo e-mail account and ebay accounts. if I try to log into yahoo or eBay on a strange computer it alerts my smart phone.

That was a little harsh there, even if you meant it in jest

WTP – just to give you a general idea of the type of thing I was thinking of (in case c”v you can’t find anyone wiser): I was thinking along the lines of setting some kind of limit regarding how much or when or where you use the phone and/or saying a kapitel of Tehillim before (or before and after) each time you use it.

WTP – regarding asking a Rav, I would think that if you ask the question the right way – meaning, explain all your feelings and issues – and you ask the right Rav, he could advise you properly. Of course, finding the right Rav for these kinds of questions is not so simple since it takes a lot more than knowledge of halacha.

But if you can find the right person to ask, it would seem to me that it’s kidai to ask. For one thing, he may surprise you with his answer. But there was also another reason I suggested asking a Rav. If you find someone who is wise enough, he may have more of an answer than a simple “yes” or “no”. And it seems to me that may be what you need.

I can’t tell you exactly what that means, since I am not wise enough (and know nothing about smartphones), but that is why I feel you need a wise Rav. He may be able to either come up with a way that you don’t need it or come up with a way that even if you have to use it, you can somehow lessen the possible damage (and I don’t just mean filters – you don’t need a Rav to tell you about filters). And I just think it may help to talk to someone who has Daas Torah and wisdom. I certainly think it will be more helpful than a lot of the responses you are getting here.

Sorry that I can’t offer any other real advice. This is definitely not my area (Boruch Hashem!). I and most people I know do not work in fields that require much or any “technology”.

What makes you think it was meant in jest?

If its a COMPANY phone, you might not be allowed to install any software including a filter (Many company devices have a no-install policy) . The filter might also cause havoc with the passcode even if the filter is allowed

Imagine if someone said “I think the Jews should be in jail”.
And then when someone gets upset, they say they mean Madoff specifically, and it was obvious.

Completely inapt analogy. You should quit while you’re behind.

I agree with DY.

btw, she uses the word smartphone in her first sentence.

The last I checked the chiyuv of “הוכח תוכיח” only applies to Issurim. Otherwise, it’s אונאת דברים

“Have we come to a consensus about potato peelers yet?”

It’s a machlokes (well at least on Shabbos).

Poor Ikea will have to stock up on flint chips, but alas even those are technology.

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Is there not a Google Voice equivalent in Israel? Like a Walla Voice or something?

the amish arent exact;y tech free. theyre allowed to have whatever they want in their bussinesses, and at home no wires. so a smartphone is fine, as its wireless.

WTP, how about asking your IT people about Skype?

Maybe there is a way to get an SMS on Skype instead?

At least for texting a cell phone from your end, there is a SMS charge of 9.7 cents for an Israeli number, with a 4.6 cent connection fee. I think that is for sending an SMS to an Israeli phone, but maybe there is a way for texts to come in bypassing your phone and go to Skype?