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  • #1918842
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    Plenty of countries have already imposed second lockdowns and yet some countries still didn’t yet impose a lockdown at all. What is the right approach?
    On one hand, we have to make sure that the virus does not spiral out of control. But on the other hand We can’t allow the country to be shut down again!
    What is best? Either way will be challenging.

    #1918898
    Sam Klein
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    Every country is different what is best for them based on their exact situation and seriousness of how bad the situation is to how tight the lockdown needs to be made

    All of this can come to a complete halt and end immediately if we klal yisroel as a nation would all wake up to face reality and admit to Hashem wake up call for serious teshuva and achdus ASAP together as a nation ASAP

    May this happen very soon so Mashiach can come already with Hashems help

    #1918943
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    Yes, we all hope that Mashiach will come very soon. But don’t we have to focus on the problem at the moment? And yes again, it is different to all countries, but is it okay to impose lockdowns with just a few days notice? Whatever the situation, it is right to go into lockdown given the amount of other problems lockdown can cause. Hundreds of thousands of jobs lost, some which may never be returned. there are so many cons of lockdown that lockdown might just defeat its own purpose of saving lives. It might kill more people than it will save!

    #1919109
    crazy horse
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    a lot of the lock down was stupid. why can you shop in walmart and not in smaller stores? if anything if more stores are open people are more spread out. what changes after 8? if anything if stores are open longer that people can shop more spread out. why can’t i go in the dmv but i could live in shoprite? there’s only one knucklehead in new jersey his name is funky faced phil.

    #1919202
    Sam Klein
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    “a lot of the lock down was stupid. why can you shop in walmart and not in smaller stores? if anything if more stores are open people are more spread out. ”

    Lots of smaller stores were allowed to remain open as long as they were ESSENTIAL needed stores as food or drug stores etc…. Perhaps you forgot that. But large stores also have more aisles and space to breathe to leave social distancing between people and the state also had workers in front of the big department stores only allowing in a certain amount of people at a time so they knew there was always enough room for social distancing to keep people safe and away from each other, while on a small stop in store there’s barely any space for social distancing unless you take one customer at a time and the rest wait in the car until it’s their turn like the state does at the Motor vehicle centers

    #1919312
    huju
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    The wisdom of a lockdown is a question for epidemiologists. The rest of us should back off.

    #1919331
    Yserbius123
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    In my opinion, COVID-19 is a test for Bein Adam L’Chaveiro and lockdowns are only necessary when we fail that test. Lemme explain.

    The best way to keep the virus in check is for everyone to act as if they may have the virus. Keep hands to yourself, don’t touch things you don’t have to, use sanitizer before going out, wear a mask so your breath doesn’t get on people, don’t go into crowds, be very careful in general, etc.

    But instead, unfortunately, too many of us have done the opposite. How many times have we heard our friends or family say “It’s OK to do this, I won’t catch the virus from it” or “I’m not going to bother with this precaution, it’s not going to help much to prevent me from catching COVID”

    The fact that the only way to prevent people from being spreaders, Rachmana Litzlon, is to lock everyone in their homes illustrates that whatever we told ourselves on Yom Kippur about being better to others wasn’t enough.

    #1919338
    Gadolhadorah
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    A “lockdown” by definition will result in subjective determinations of open/close for various facilities similarly situated and is 100 percent certain to yield some seemingly arbitrary outcomes (aka liquor stores open while seforim stores closed). The bottom line is that no one has come with a simple, administratively workable set of lockdown rules that is universally perceived as fair and effective. They are very crude short-term tools to substantially reduce the total number of potential social interactions and viral transmissions versus the number that would result absent such rules, while still allowing vital commerce to occur. Our society will never accept a China-style lockdown enforced by the military or Singapore style lockdown where everyone is tracked via cellphone. With 50 states setting different rules, and much intrastate variation, the enforcement of U.S. lockdowns will be “messy” and inconsistent.

    #1919454
    Reb Eliezer
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    Sometimes it is necesssary like an operation.

    #1919491
    Health
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    GH -“Our society will never accept a China-style lockdown enforced by the military or Singapore style lockdown where everyone is tracked via cellphone”

    It doesn’t matter. Your Idol Biden promised that he will Lockdown the Whole Country for 4-6 weeks.
    I wonder what that effect will have on the Economy?!?
    Oh Well, you Reap what you Sow!
    I’m just waiting to see it happen.
    LOL!!!

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