Location of Bnei Brak Same Today as During Chazal?

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    shmoel
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    Is the current location of the City of Bnei Brak on the same spot as where Bnei Brak was during Chazal’s time?

    And when was the original city built and destroyed?

    And when the current city was built about 100 years ago, how did they know where the original one was located, considering it no longer existed as an inhabited city?

    #866985
    dash™
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    It is not the same city. At the time of the founding of the modern city there was an arab villige named Ibn Ibraq at the site of the ancient city which is now the Hiriya landfill.

    #866986
    shmoel
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    dash: What causes you to think that Ibn Ibrak was the same city, or on the site of it, as the original Bnei Brak?

    #866987
    mom12
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    shmoel: he/she specifically said it’s not. read carefully…

    #866988
    yungerman1
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    Either dash is very knowledgeable or he got his information from here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beneberak

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bnei_Brak

    Either way shmoel, does your compouter access restrict google?

    #866989
    shmoel
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    Wikipedia or Google is hardly a reliable source for ancient Jewish history.

    #866990
    yungerman1
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    shmoel- I think its fair to say that wikipedia is 99% accurate.

    #866991
    shmoel
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    Yungerman – Not even close, when it comes to Jewish history.

    #866992
    yungerman1
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    shmoel- Care to provide examples?

    #866993
    shmoel
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    One example off the top of my head is it has the years wrong for the Beis Hamikdash.

    #866994
    frumisrael
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    I agree that Wiki is not a good source. With that said, the Beni Brak referred to in the hagadda text was further south by the modern day Tzomet Messubim, which takes its name from the text of that very paragraph.

    There is an opinion that I did see in one hagadda a number of years ago that the bnei brak in the hagadda was not a place but camme from the word “mavrik” shiny – as in the utensils, pots, and whatnot that were on the tables were in a state befitting a yom tov, but I think while nice, that does not seem to be the meaning and I had only seen it in one place.

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