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i only drink single-orange orange juice
my favorite is tropicana no pulp
there is a bold fruity bouquet
and a slightly bitter aftertaste of rind.
now if we would put it into a beautiful glass bottle
with a label extolling the history of the dedicated family that has been making it for many decades in the highlands of florida
and gave it a name like glenorangie
we could sell it for $60 a bottle.
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I also only drink Tropicana but to engage in underhanded sneaky attacks on the ultimate beverage, G-d’s gift to humanity through the Scottish nation, that most heavenly quaff, Single malt Scotch (may its memory and use be held kodosh in all the YI kiddush clubs) – I can’t take that and I had to answer your opening. I hope that all sane and intelligent readers will follow in the defense of this gift of G-d to humanity.
Forgive me for asking, but what else do you put in your OJ?
A Dr. Katz cartoon (in the papers, not the show)
Patient: Dr. Katz, my wife greets me every morning with a glass of freshly squeezed OJ.
Dr. Katz: That’s nice. What’s the problem?
Patient: Right between the eyes?
Mr 80:
You say “now if we would put it into a beautiful glass bottle
with a label extolling the history of the dedicated family that has been making it for many decades in the highlands of florida
and gave it a name like glenorangie
we could sell it for $60 a bottle.”
Well try making a range of 10,12,20,25 etc years. lets see then how many people will pay yor $60 per bottle!!
Lets not forget, anyone can take some juicy oranges and squeeze them into a bottle. With scotch, if are a little educated (ever been to scotland and visited a brewery where they manufacture this “liquid gold” – I have!!) in its origins and makings, depends on good quality water, mastering a skill in its production etc. Thats what makes it taste so good, making it worth it weight in gold.
OK, let’s discuss orange juice.
It’s orange. And it’s juice.
Next?
The Wolf
Yes its orange and its juice. But what brocho do you make? Of course we know that everybody makes a shehakol. The gemora and halocho seem quite clear about squeezing juice from a fruit that its a shehakol. But the gemora and halocho also add something. If the fruit is grown ONLY for its juice, then the juice takes on the halocho of its fruit. So tut sodeh strawberries would be an adomo and oranges would be a ho’etz. So paskins Rav Abadi. And everybody paskins against him. Rav Spitzer in his sefer paskins, after much pilpul, like Rav Abadi, that oj is a ho’etz, but says that le’masseh, the whole world makes a shehakol and we should go with the minhag yisroel.
Fact is that Rav Spitzer’s psak is partly correct. The psak that its a ho’etz like Rav Abadi is correct. But I’m nots ure if the minhag is correct. If the halocho is really a ho’etz, then we should make a ho’etz. The minhag yisroel as a shehakol was before Tropicana not from concentrate juice from oranges grown in orchards specifically for juice, and specifically not for eating. Therefore the psak of the gemora and poskim would be to make a ho’etz. All that said, I make a shehakol because Rav Spitzer’s final psak that minhag yisroel is a shehakol, as wrong as I think that is, but since everybody paskins shehakol, the halocho becomes like that since the torah says listen to the rov gedolim no matter what.
Unless you extract your own juice, I doubt you’ve ever had single orange orange juice. If you’re getting Tropicana, you’ve been drinking blended orange juice all this time without realizing.
Mod 80 words: i very strongly disagree with you that that Halachah is wrong but we say shehakol to listen to the Gedolim even though they are wrong.
the correct Halachah is shehakol, regardless of the reason, Minhag or whatever, that IS the Halachah because the Poskim tell us that is what we are to do. “
That’s playing semantics. You say that i say to listen to our gedolim. then you say to listen to the poskim. ummm isn’t that the same? You also agree that the brocho reasoning for ho’etz is correct while saying a shehakol. I said the same. So I’m not really sure how you don’t agree with me.
And Squeak is correct. Tropicana at best isn’t a single orange orange juice. You can only get that if the oranges came from one single orcahrd. Since any single serving of Tropicana can easily be a mixture of several orchards, its highly unlikely to get a real single single. Which leaves us to drink single malt scotch.
theprof1- OJ connoisseurs are rare indeed.
Best OJ I ever had was in Los Angeles, on Shabbos. The shiksa picked oranges off their backyard tree and squeezed them. Shabbos Morning. Really good. Although quite ossur. Oh well, they do say mayim genuvim yimtoku. I almost choked after I finished and they told me. Oh yes, I made a shehakol.
Orange juice is refreshing but it is too sweet.
I once knew a grove in the Alter Heim that made the OJ.
Wow, what an OJ! The best I have ever had, and I will probably never have as good.
Alas, a retirement community took over the grove.
And it was no more.
RIP
WIY, I dilute about 25%-33% Tropicana OJ in water. It is great tasting, not too sweet or fattening, and much cheaper. Try it.
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