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January 17, 2012 5:00 pm at 5:00 pm #601668Hows this oneMember
I want to marry a learning boy, but as I get older I am loosing my ?????? Hatorah. I was wondering if people can help me gain bak my love and want for a learning boy and Torah life?
January 17, 2012 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm #844361sem graduateMemberHow about telling us what it is that’s making you lose your chashivus hatorah? Maybe we’ll be able to convince you otherwise.
Just one interesting point:
Learning Torah is the greatest thing one can do – greater than Hatzalas Nefashos. How do we know? Mordechai was listed as the greatest person in his dor. After the story of purim, he was moved down to number 4.(I’m not sure if the numbers are accurate but he was definitely moved down a bit on the list) Why was he moved down? Up until the story, he sat and learned all day; he was part of the sanhedrin. While busy with the story of purim, even though he was doing it for the sake of saving Jewry…. he was not learning… so he was no longer as high on the list….
January 17, 2012 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #844362popa_bar_abbaParticipantWe’re going to need a little more detail than that.
1. Why did you originally want to marry a learning boy? A man can be an oved Hashem even if his tachlis is not to be learning. Why did you specifically think that you wanted to marry someone whose tachlis happened to be learning?
2. Why does it bother you that you no longer want that? If it was making you unhappy to think that you would live the life of a kollel family, maybe it isn’t for you? That is ok- you can also be an ovedes Hashem even if your tachlis is to be the wife of an oved Hashem who does not learn all day.
3. You say you are losing your chashivus hatorah. What does that mean to you? What did it used to mean to you? To me, chashivus hatorah doesn’t really have anything to do with whether you are someone who will be happy learning all day, or married to someone like that. I suppose if you don’t value torah, then you certainly wouldn’t want to, but even if you value torah, it might just not be for you.
January 17, 2012 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #844363real-briskerMemberTroll…
January 17, 2012 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #844364popa_bar_abbaParticipantTroll…
Yes, probably.
January 17, 2012 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #844365BTGuyParticipantlol @ real-brisker and PBA. I see your point!
January 17, 2012 5:48 pm at 5:48 pm #844366ED IT ORParticipanttroll! probably but……
anyway are you telling us that you wouldn’t marry the person who feels like the right one if he dwon’t learn all day?
January 17, 2012 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #844367real-briskerMemberpba – The poster is less than an hour old.
January 17, 2012 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #844368oomisParticipantMaybe a troll (read: probably), but PBA made a great point.
January 17, 2012 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #844369☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantpba – The poster is less than an hour old.
Yes, but this is a personal question and a regular poster might want to separate it from her regular screen name.
Now, had the poster asked, “I’ve always wanted to marry a learning boy, and I am going out with someone who seems to be a baal midos, I hear he’s a big masmid, and he has a wonderful personality, but someone told me that when he was learning in E.Y. he didn’t ibber meiser and took a cigarette once a month. Should I marry him?”, I would say (s)he’s definitely a troll.
DY is a troll
January 17, 2012 8:01 pm at 8:01 pm #844370OneOfManyParticipantMaybe yitayningwut’s practicing… 😉
January 17, 2012 8:14 pm at 8:14 pm #844371real-briskerMemberDY – Can be. Trolls aren’t davka questions with no sense to them.
January 17, 2012 8:18 pm at 8:18 pm #844372mikehall12382MemberWho says you cant have a “torah life” without a full time learner….You can be fully observant and be married to a worker…they are not mutually exclusive.
January 17, 2012 8:20 pm at 8:20 pm #844373yitayningwutParticipantMaybe… heh heh
January 17, 2012 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #844374OneOfManyParticipantSeriously speaking, I’d say that if your chashivus hatorah is entirely comprised of marrying a learning boy, then you doesn’t have real chashivus hatorah. Which is probably why you’re loosing it (out into the wild?).
January 17, 2012 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm #844375Think firstMemberExuce my ignorance, can someone please explain to me, what’s a troll?
January 17, 2012 9:22 pm at 9:22 pm #844376☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDY is a troll
Someone finally figured me out. 🙂
January 17, 2012 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #844377OneOfManyParticipantI think DY should have a trolling seminar. Maybe start a thread. And his subtitle should be changed to “Licensed Trolling Instructor.”
January 17, 2012 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm #844378bptParticipant(Even if it is a troll, its still a topic I love to comment on)
“help me gain back my love..for a…Torah life?”
How’s this: Forget the “boy” and marry an adult who works AND learns.
That’s a Torah life worth loving!
January 18, 2012 2:32 am at 2:32 am #844379oomisParticipantA troll deliberately asks questions or posts threads that are guaranteed to cause trouble, and then sits back and watches everyone duke it out.
January 18, 2012 3:47 am at 3:47 am #844380Think firstMemberOomis- thanks.
January 18, 2012 4:01 am at 4:01 am #844381☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantA troll deliberately asks questions or posts threads that are guaranteed to cause trouble, and then sits back and watches everyone duke it out.
In my case, I don’t think I’ve started any threads, and I usually get down and dirty myself!
January 18, 2012 5:18 am at 5:18 am #844382real-briskerMemberDY – Thats a DY type of troll :).
January 18, 2012 10:35 am at 10:35 am #844383chassidishY.U.typeMemberDo you have chashivus for anything? This might be a self-esteem issue…
January 18, 2012 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm #844384srugee123Memberyo real israeli
I dont understand why that is a good proof that learning torah is the most important thing. It could just mean that Mordechai knew less because he was involved in other things so the order of the Sanhedrin went by Torah knowledge
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