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Upon the passing of Mayor Ed Koch, z”l, I think it would be appropriate for us to learn mishnayos le illui nishmas Yeedle Itzik ben Aharon Leib (???? ???? ?? ???? ????). I found this out watching the “levaya” from Temple Emanu El, when the temple’s rabbi, David Posner, read the El Maleh Rachamim.
Regardless, he was still a Jew! Maybe he was on the wrong path, maybe he did support things that were anti Torah, but he was very proud of his Judaism and a big supporter of israel. Whether or not you support israel, he did and he was a big voice for us that will be missed. I’m a girl but I would be interested in learning in his memory, if you all think that’s a good idea.
Once again, zahavasdad throws around the “lashon hara” cry, when he himself is a huge malshin in the CR. He has publicly slandered gedolim, rabbonim, roshei yeshiva, and entire segments of klal yisroel (repeatedly).
And when confronted, he just runs away into the little hole that he emerged from to spew his hatred towards charedim.
Get lost.
Ferd,
I am not going anywhere
See? Look how just ignores the point.
You are a horrible malshin, who doesn’t stop speaking lashon hara here, and then you have the utter gall to yell “lashon hara” at someone.
What a two-faced faker you are.
Zahava should be ashamed of her father.
getting angry and insulting your fellow jew is not the proper behavior of a Ben Torah
Just keep ignoring the point, which once again, you have just did again.
You are always insulting your fellow Jew in the CR. Be it gedolim, rabbonim, reshei yeshiva, or black-hat charedim….and now you have the audacity to bring up the good old “stop insulting your fellow Jew” rally….just like you do with your “lashon hara” screams when someone says something that you don’t like.
They call people like you: Dishonest, two-facers, fakers, liars, cowards (for keeping on ignoring the point), and most of all, self-hating Jews.
Prusta ferd.
You are doing more to hurt your cause than you realize.
Ferd +1
About time someone told this guy something.
I totally agree. You could not have said this better.
To the Mods
I cant belive you allowed Yenta and Ferd to say those things
I can say things back from these Cyber Bullies, But I have not
Actually, I find their argument compelling. Maybe let’s go back and find if there is lashon hara you have posted about people not in your community, and then we’ll see.
I’ll let Ferd do that for us.
If you count Weberman, Ill freely admit to that as I think he is a Rasha and people must be told to stay away from him
I am not a follower of Avi Weiss, but I did find this statement by Ferd
Avi Weiss is a Reformed Rabbi. In fact he’s far worse.
He want’s people to think that his new warped mehalech is Orthodoxy. That is alot worse and far more dangerous than someone who preaches that they are reformed.
Good, I agree with that. I think he is far worse and more dangerous than a reform rabbi.
anyway, with regard to the OP- ummmm, no.
Ferd is a loud-mouthed loser who just likes to insult people.
In this thread: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/throwing-bleach-at-r-nuchem-rosenberg-to-achieve-justice
he called me names and insulted me numerous times. He has done this is other threads as well.
Obviously the mods are ignoring the rules when they feel like it. It needs to stop, and Ferd should be banned for his comments.
In January of 1993, I heard Koch bragging on WABC about how he loved pork. He said that he knew that it wasn’t Kosher, but “just loved it” and laughed.
As an idealistic teenager, I wrote him a note and received the following response.. “Dear.. I have your letter of January 1. Thanks for your interest in my place in the hereafter, but I’ll take my chances. All the best. Sincerely, Edward I. Koch”
I wonder how he’s making out.
Anyone interested in seeing the letter, can email me at sorry, we don’t post email addresses
Here’s one. Wherein Zdad accuses chassidishe hashgachos who put a sticker label on certain products when it is also under their hashgacha of “turning Kashruth into Cashruth”.
Not lashon hara at all, huh?
I dont think so, And when you speak off the website to your chevre, you never have that conversation about certain Kashruth, that you know isnt about Kashruth.
And I’ve got one regarding molestation where zdad “truly believe
The aguda would have done even less than they are doing now if they were not shamed into at least admitting there was so issue.”Well then. I suppose zdad’s true belief is a good reason to be malshin the agudah. I suppose so.
The recent issues have been a hot button topic and many people are upset and angry at many people
zahavasdad – what is “chevre”?
Anyone have a clue? Is that “Harry-language?
And here’s a gem:
“Do you have answers for the basic contradictions between Torah and science?
I forgot where the Gemorah says this, but it says there are 3 parts to the creation of a Baby, Man , Woman and Hashem.
The Baby’s blood is determined by the Mother
Which of course is not true (My own daughter has my blood type not her mothers)”
Wherein zdad declares the gemara “not true” because he cannot fathom that “blood” can mean anything other than blood type.
YW Moderator-95: while Zdad’s may go over the top sometimes, i unfortunately see many posters choose to go this route (i myself have unfortunately fallen into this behavior sometimes). while i disagree with this style i find that the mods here allow much much worse to be written against Zionists rabbis and modern orthodox rabbis. it is only when zdads comes out (wrongfully) against chareidim and chassidim do the mods raise their voice. this appears to be a bias.
There is probably a bias. I concede as much.
This is not a perfectly moderated site, and if we didn’t allow anything which would make anyone upset, there would be nothing left to say. So we allow a large envelope, but outside the envelope, we don’t allow.
And for the record, I dont think I have ever insulted another poster (or at least tried not to)
Just gedolim, right?
And I’ve got one regarding molestation where zdad “truly believe
The aguda would have done even less than they are doing now if they were not shamed into at least admitting there was so issue.”In all honestly, this didn’t originate from ZD. I believe some of the Agudah “bigwigs” said the same. It may have even been the Noveminsker (but I don’t recall).
PLEASE!! Consider channeling all of this machlokes and loshon hora into learning for a refuah shleimah for Refoel Yoel Ozer ben Chaya Malka!! He is a 2 year old boy in desperate need of our tefillos!!
it’s difficult to read some of the posts here, so am I to understand that if someone else eats chazir it’s ok for you to eat it?!?!
if someone says lashon hara, it’s ok for you to speak it?!?!
the world is going mad, r’l
Once again, zahavasdad throws around the “lashon hara” cry, when he himself is a huge malshin in the CR.
This, whether it is true or not, does not detract from his statement.
The statement he was responding to is or is not LH regardless of his personal conduct on the board. Your argument was pure ad hominem, as instead of addressing his point, you chose to address him instead.
The Wolf
This ganging up on zdad is really horrible. I’m sorry if this is hurting your feelings and upsetting you. If you don’t like the things zdad says just ignore him, this is going too far.
wow, pretty pathetic all of you. i’ve never seen people gang up on someone like this on this site before. it’s interesting because the original poster had a great suggestion to learn Torah in someone’s memory. Maybe it’s not someone who you think you’d like to learn Torah for so don’t. Rediculous that you want to slam Koch for the things he did wrong but insulting ZDad is just as bad if not worse. it could be that ZDad has or has not said L”H things on other threads but that doesn’t detract at all from the truth of his statement – all you’re doing is saying L”H about a dead man!!!!!! does that make you feel good about yourself?? pathetic.
back to rebdoniel’s suggestion – it’s a great idea. and for all of you who think Koch doesn’t deserve it, that’s all the more reason he NEEDS it and it’s our obligation to do it! MorahRach – Hashem is happy to hear your tefilot and accept the Torah learning that you bring in to the world. the fact that you’re a woman is of no consequence to Hashem. the fact that most (all) of the nasty comments here came from men is quite telling. no wonder our tradition tells us that women bring the true yiddishkeit into our homes and children. personally, I will take on learning some Mishna Avot because it’s what I see is most lacking in myself and on this site (i’m quite sure i’ve said bad things on this site before too and i’m seeing why it’s so damaging to our nation.
wow, pretty pathetic all of you
Yes, you’re right. I’m pretty pathetic for what I did.
(For the record, I am part of “all of you.”)
The Wolf
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