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April 10, 2022 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #2077182DjgreenParticipant
Over the last 48 hours the Lakewood community has seen a couple of horrible incident’s, on many communities there are safety patrol groups which many of them are heimish members and they do an amazing job! Kudos to them they’re always in the news doing great stuff. I’m not sure why this hasn’t happened in Lakewood yet? Why can’t we get a group of geshikt devoted guys to start patrolling our community?
April 10, 2022 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #2077285ujmParticipantYou need Chasidim to start Shomrim. Now that the Chasidim are in the process of almost overtaking a majority of the Lakewood population, you can probably expect a Shomrim of Lakewood.
April 11, 2022 1:31 pm at 1:31 pm #2077459GadolHadofiParticipantJoseph,
As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about. The Shomrim patrols in Miami, L.A. and Baltimore were not started by Chasidim.
April 11, 2022 1:36 pm at 1:36 pm #2077526Y.W. EditorKeymasterLakewood Shomrim have been active for the past 15 years. But Joseph is Joseph. Oh by the way, they were not started by any Chassidim. In fact, there were no Chassidim living in Lakewood 15 years ago.
April 11, 2022 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #2077527ujmParticipantDofi:
Hatzalah, Shomrim, Chaveirim, Bikur Cholim and the vast majority of other chesed organizations were started by Chasidim. Then replicated elsewhere, by many others, across Klal Yisroel.
P.S. I’m not Chasidish.
April 11, 2022 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #20775492scentsParticipantY.W. Editor,
“In fact, there were no Chassidim living in Lakewood 15 years ago.”
This is a highly inaccurate statement. For starters, Satmar had a shull in Lakewood much more than 15 years ago, and I am sure there were many other Chassidishe shulls at time.
April 11, 2022 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #2077557Amil ZolaParticipantThe Lakewood alert has an account of the Shomrim’s involvement with these crimes. It’s pitiful that Joseph is so unaware of reality.
April 11, 2022 5:06 pm at 5:06 pm #2077574GadolHadofiParticipantJoseph,
That might be so but you made the comment, “Now that the Chasidim are in the process of almost overtaking a majority of the Lakewood population, you can probably expect a Shomrim of Lakewood”. Obviously, Lakewood and other communities don’t need to wait for Chasidim to start organizations that have already been started there by non-Chasidim.
One has to wonder whether you’ve actually ever been to the communities that you so frequently make inaccurate comments about.
April 11, 2022 5:09 pm at 5:09 pm #2077595GadolhadorahParticipantUJM: There is empirical evidence that there was intelligent life and chesed endeavors within the Litvish tzibur before the invention of Chassidus.
April 11, 2022 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #2077601KuvultParticipantBaltimore Shomrim is mostly a mix of Modern Orthodox and Modern Yeshivish with a few from other groups mixed in.
April 12, 2022 12:00 am at 12:00 am #2077626ujmParticipantGood grief, Hadofi. You fail to see humor even when it is staring you in the face.
Hadorah: But is their established scientific proof of that? Barring consensus in the scientific community, we need to wait further results on your claim.
April 12, 2022 11:38 am at 11:38 am #2077810Sam KleinParticipantHashem is our shomer Yisroel and always watching every single one of us. The question we all need to ask ourselves honestly is AM I WATCHING MY GUARD FOR HASHEM AND KEEPING ALL THE MITZVOS? FOR ALL HASHEM DOES FOR US 24-7 AND HOW MUCH WE EACH OWE HASHEM KING OF KINGS RULER OF THE WORLD
April 12, 2022 2:43 pm at 2:43 pm #2077882KuvultParticipantS. Klein,
You are correct. The IDF should be disbanded and all Frum areas should request the police not patrol their neighborhoods.April 13, 2022 2:10 am at 2:10 am #2077929Sam KleinParticipantKuvult
Of course we know that your just joking but from the truth perspective if you were serious. on another reason why they couldn’t do that is because we are all responsible to do our Hishtadlus in life rather it’s in making a living to support our families or in our family Hishtadlus etc…
April 15, 2022 1:47 am at 1:47 am #2078436Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWho said chasidim are the first shomrim!? Obviously, litvakim had the earliest organized militia to keep chasidim out!
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