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Does anyone KNOW why “we” (Followers of the chart with the green and blue and orange rectangles) eat the same for Afikoman as Motzi Matzah. Calling all knowledgeable responses. Un-knowledgeable need not respond but I’d love to make fun of you.
Rav Schachter explained it recently. It’s a Machlokes Achronim. Either one Zecher L’Pesach and one Zecher L’chagigah or it’s one Zecher L’Pesach and one with which to be Yotzei the Mitzvah of Achilas Matzah.
Either one Zecher L’Pesach and one Zecher L’chagigah or it’s one Zecher L’Pesach and one with which to be Yotzei the Mitzvah of Achilas Matzah.
Actually 1 keZayis is Zecher the actual Korbon Pesach, and 1 keZayis is Zecher the Matzo consumed with the Korban Pesach.
what’s with you people getting pleasure out of making fun of others??
147: That’s what I said. The Matzah that was eaten with the Pesach is the Matzas Mitzvah. It’s not a Zecher. It’s the same Matzah.
Sam2:- Possibly if the Matzo Mitzwoh is not all the way until Tzofun, but more probable that the Matzo Mitzwoh is the very 1st keZayis, in light of the fact that the Benediction “Al Achilas Matzo” is recited in conjunction with the very 1st keZayis.
If Tzofun would be the prime Mitzwah of Achilas Matzo, it wouldn’t only be very preferable to consume the Afikomon prior to Chatzos, but absolutely mandatory, in light of the fact that the Toroh precribes {in Parchas haChodesh} to meat Matzo “Bo’Orev” [conotation of evening and not the entire nite] unlike Korban Pesach whose time frame is “baLailo HaHu” [Keri’as haToroh of Shishi Shel Pesach].
147: First of all, it’s a Machlokes Achronim. The two opinions line up between the reason for 2 K’zeisim and which is the Matzah with which we do the Mitzvah. Listen to Rav Schachter’s Shiur from this past Monday (I think, maybe Tuesday). He discussed all of this.
And don’t make up your own Drashos. You’re not Chazal. That’s ridiculous. There is NO Makor in Divrie Chazal for the Drasha you just made up. None whatsoever. In fact, you’re so wrong that it’s the opposite of what you said. The Shittah of R’ Elazar Ben Azaryah (that Achilas Pesach and Matzah is Ad Chatzos) is based on a G’zeirah Shavah of Lailah Lailah from Bachatzi Halailah. Thus, Lailah means midnight. And those who are Makpid to eat before Chaztos is not because of this Shittah (which we don’t hold by), but rather because of the Shittah in the first Mishnah in B’rachos that any Mitzvah Shemitzvasah Balailah has to be done before Chatzos Mid’rabannan so that you don’t end up messing up. We don’t really hold like that either, but many are Makpid to try and do it Lechatchilah. Your attempt to read Pesukim like you are Chazal is a Drashah Shel Hevel and an insult to real Limud Hatorah. (Oh, and if you want to be even more wrong then look at the first Mishnah in the 4th Perek in B’rachos. Tefillah Haerev Ein Lah Kevah. It calls it Erev and you still have all night.)
BS, a k’zayis l’chumrah is the same as two k’zaysim l’kulah, so it actually makes sense.
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