Kyle Rittenhouse

Abba -“Legal expenses even though you have a good case if the amount you will recieve is less then your expenses than you should settle”

IDK what you mean by a good case?
If it’s a fake case from the litigant, you Never settle!
Otherwise everyone and their dog would Sue you.
You might know how to be an insurance guy, but you sure don’t know law!
BTW, do you know that you can get the other litigant to pay your legal expenses?!?

Most insurance companies would rather settle even when they believe the facts are on their side, they prefer to make it quick and clean so they can move on.

This is especially true in medical-related cases.

The way it works is you transfer your assets to someone else you trust or to overseas trust in a country that has good secrecy laws. Also you need to be self employeed in an all cash business. If it’s not in your name there is nothing they can do to collect and you claim income under the poverty line so they can’t garnish your wages. OJ is a prime example of how it’s done. You can also declare bankruptcy just to stall them and possibly get rid of the debt. So depending on the state you live in you can keep both your car and house even if you declare bankruptcy.
You may know theory of how the law works but don’t understand how it works in the real world.

Just for the record there is a Federal Law called the Federal Wage Garnishment Law which clearly states that if you earn less than the poverty level there can be no garnishment. There are exceptions but that only for taxes owed. If you don’t believe me google it.
Before anyone takes any of these ideas they should consult with both an attorney and a accountant for both tax and legal ramifications.
OJ Simpson owes the Goldman Estate from 1997 verdict of $33 million, Although he still lifes the high life in a gated community $58 million of which he only paid about $132,000.00. Simpson is making money but Goldman isn’t recieving a dime

Actually a lot of people can use the Garnishment Law. It goes like this the person only declares a weekly salary of $275.00, the balance of his salary is paid off the books. Which is why being self employed in a cash business is needed. Although there are plenty of jobs that pay off the books also. This will also allow you to go on government programs should you want to.
In Florida your house is totally exempt so if you claim residence there you buy a house there and sell your assets and own it free and clear.
As far as having equity in car, most cars are leased and those that buy a car, mostly finance the car so if you take the car you are going to have to pay the finance company and the owner if he knows you are going to claim it wouldn’t be making payments so there maybe no equity.
If you think collecting is so easy speak to Fred Goldman . He got a $33.5 million judgement against OJ Simpson and has only been able to collect about $132,000.00. The amount owed now 25 years later is about $60 million. I am sure he will split it with you, he gets $50 million and you can keep the rest.

The concept is fairly simple your business on paper is owned by a trusted confident. Utilities and car leases, mortgage payments and micelanous expenses are paid by the business. in the name of the bussiness. Since all your expenses are being paid by the business you might be able to servive on $14.000.00 walking around money
I am not advising anyone to go on government programs that they ae not entitled to. That said the chance of getting caught are slim to none.
The IRS is more likely to catch you because you are for example living a $100,000.00 life style on a $10,000.00 salary. But since nothing on paper is in your name(such as cars, ownership of the business or houses) it will be hard to prove you are actually living that life style. As a general rule the IRS doesn’t audit the poor they usually audit the rich and upper midle class,

Salary worker making $100K per year happily married with a house and child. He devorces his wife and gives her the house and all assets plus $25K per year for alimony/child support. Which the wife then garnishs from the husband paycheck. The creditor can’t collect from the house or the assests becuase it’s in the wifes name. In this example we will say that payroll tax are 25%. His disposible income is $75K of which 25K is garnished for alimony/ child support. According to the Federal Garnishment Law garnishment is limited to 25% of disposibal income. Since Alimony/child support takes up 33% of the after taxes income the creditor can’t collect. The husban and wife live together in the house although he should have a different address on his government ID and his tax returns.
After a year or two he should declare bankruptcy under Chapter 7 and he may get rid of the debt. Once the debts gone he can remarry his wife.

What legal fees are you talking about that are so high you don’t need a lawyer to get devorced or you can share a lawyer. If it’s a quicky devorce it cost less than $1,000.00. It’s only when the parties fight that it gets expensive. Changing the name on the title of real estate cost less than $100.00 at the county clerk. Garnishment for child support also if you uses the NYState Agency here cost $25.00.
The basic concept is to incur a garnishment greater than 25% so that the creditor can’t collect anything. Child support can be up to 50% of disposible income and always takes precendent over other claims.
As far as working off the books most of these jobs pay $30k or less per year. Also rent or mortgage payments are over $1,000 per month and as soon as you put more than $1,000 in the checking account it’s subject to garnishment so how is he going to pay bills.. Also due to the stress the couple may actually get divorced and then working off the books wouldn’t help as the wife knows.
Anyone thinking of taking this advise should first consult with your accountant who is better able to advise you as he knows your finances.
You have the option of following my advise and keeping the same job and paying taxes or finding a job off the books that pays the same amount after taxes If your off the books you have to be worried about getting caught by the government, you are locked in to your employer, you are not covered by social security or unemployement. Bankruptcy also may not be the saviour that you maybe wishing for. In this case Kyle knowingly shot 3 people so the debt would not be discharged by bankruptcy. If on the other hand you a licensed driver accidently hit a school bus seriously innjuring a bus load of students he could declare bankruptcy and it would stop the lawsuit and discharge the debt against him and they could only collect from the insurance company.

Why is it disgusting? Why is it illegal. Who certifies that this website is kosher?

when you start discussing how likely IRS is to look at something, you should smell a rat …

FYI, IRS is not nec essarily going by income, they also go by algorithm: they can see red flags in the data – say, your W2 income suddenly dropped and your previous address is now address of a business that runs similar income, etc. Anyway, midvar sheker tirhok, please.

Abba -“The problem with your idea is that off the books jobs at that income are non-existent.”

It only works if your main income is Governmental income; lets say Social Security.

“Living out of wedlock? It will be laughed out of court.”

I’m sure that you don’t tell your clients to do your ideas.
If you do, I hope that they say – “You do it first”.
The only one that will be Laughed out of Court is You in Handcuffs!

Abba -“But if you defraud a creditor unless it’s an open and shut case, they have higher priority cases and wouldn’t prosecute.
In my case the husband is allowed to divorce his wife and pay child support , his paperwork is all in order. It’s going to be a hard case to prove fraud.
The husban and wife live together in the house although he should have a different address on his government ID and his tax returns.”

LOL.
A hard case to prove?
I’ll give you one thing if it’s not a lot money, they’ll forget about it.
But 100 k/year and you owe half of it, they’ll hire a Private Eye to check it out.
They’ll find out that you still live in your house.
So much for your bright idea.
This is major Fraud – you’ll be gone for a long time.
Ever hear of Sing-Sing?!?

Abba -“Also why is anyone sueing someone with only social security there is no way the creditor can collect.”

I love people who have No clue.
Your post Proves again for the Umpteen time that you Don’t Know Law!
They don’t care what money you have – they like to make your life miserable anyways!
I used to be not too knowledgeable and when I got a summons – I went to court.
The other side’s lawyer was there, but I got a Ranking out from the Judge.
They waste your time to prove that they can’t collect.
Now when I get a Summons – I ignore it.
You Must read the summons because you never know what’s it about.
If it’s just seeking a Judgment – then you can ignore it, because who cares if they get a Judgment against you.

“Otherwise he can’t afford either a house or a car.”

I was renting & I told the Judge that my car wasn’t worth more than a $1,000.
He looked it up or he knew from the Make, Model & Year.
Do yourself a Favor before you Mess up s/o or even Yourself, tell them to get a Good lawyer.
I’m Not a Lawyer, but I’ve had a lot of cases so I know quite a bit.

Abba -“If this were so every deadbeat dad would find a witness for hire to say he stayed over at his ex-wife’s house in order to invalidate the divorce and not have to pay alimony or child support.”

At this point – you’re just arguing to have the last word.
Nothing that you just wrote has any logic in it!
Have you ever been in a Court of Law, besides auto violations?
You obviously have no clue how to present evidence!
You don’t have a clue how PI’s work.
They will spy for a long time, so it’s presented as evidence!

“You do realize that in your case you would not be allowed to keep more than $1,000.00 in the bank account otherwise it would be garnished so unless your rent is under $1,000.00 you are going to be having to carry a lot of cash around.
The creditor is only interested in getting paid. If you send the debtor to jail they wouldn’t collect anything so they will first go to civil court which takes time. by the time they want to prosecute the statute of limitation may have passed.”

Your posts are getting funnier by the minute.
The government money goes directly into your bank account.
This is non-stop garnishable.
That’s right you can’t put other money in the account.

The Statue of Limitations takes many years – more than 20.
Stop thinking that you’re a Know – it – All.
You do realize that it’s the government that will prosecute you.
They will seize all your Assets.
Then the Creditors will petition the court to get their money.

I know that this is a game by you, but some Brainless Reader might believe your posts & end up in Big Trouble.
Have a Nice Life!

Abba -“A divorce ss is child support are court orders that can only be overturned by a judge. As a general rule testimony by a privite eye can be used by one of the parents to adjust the child support”

I’m not your lawyer – if this is a real case.
Once the PI watches the guy – after a while he knows exactly where he lives.
The PI goes back to the Creditor and tells what’s really going on.
The creditor now contacts the DA, about the Fraud.
The DA opens an investigation and gets all the evidence from the Creditor.
Then he probably will prosecute.
You’ll see the Judge during the Trial.

“As far as social security being garnishment proof”

I wasn’t talking about Social Security, but other Government programs that are always Non-Garnishable!

“As far as the government coming after me, no crime has been committed You don’t want to say what criminal act was commited. With the backlog in the criminal courtts it”s doubtful the DA’s office will want to prosecute the case. It will depend on can they prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt.”

Fraud is a Major Case. They love these cases.
Now if you just Grabbed & Stole, they couldn’t care less.
After all – it’s the In – Thing!

If you or anyone makes 100 k, make a deal with the Creditor that you can afford.
They aren’t going to let this go!

Abba -“Even if you could have a judge open the divorce case to invalidate the case both sides need to be heard in order for a ruling to be made.
With the courts backed up due to covid it may take years until a hearing is made in this divorce case.”

LOL.
Again you prove that you know nothing about the Court system!
If the DA got info about a fraud case & he wants to push it Now – he goes to the Judge and the Judge will order a hearing ASAP.
Even before Covid they just delayed cases because they can. It’s just a game by them.

“He sued both in a din torah and civil court won both times could collect referred the matter to the Ocean County DA’s office in NJ got nowhere.”

If your friend wants he can contact me & for a fee – I’d give him advice.

I am not trying to provide anyone legal service and anyone can simple verify any of my claims listed below by googling them on the internet:
1) There are internet based services that will help you with the paperwork needed to file a divorce. One of which charges $135.00. There will also be court filing fees which vary state to state.
2) You can live in the same house while gatting divorced and even after it’sfinalized in most states If you need a date of seperation for the divorce paperwork. use the date you decided to seperate.
3) A creditor may seize assets in which your name and social security number is associated with. There are an exceptions for retirement benifits and some government benifits.
4) The maximum that can be garnished is 25% of the salary after taxes or in some states 10% of the gross salary.
5) Always answer a summons to civil court. If you fail to answer the plaintiff may win a defualt judgement, Which mean he won the case If it’s the first time you can ask the judge for a continunace and he will set another court date you just need an excuse.
If the husband is scared a creditor will garnish his wages, He can divorce his wife in secular civil court, transfer all his assete ie house bank and investment account to be solely in her name and give her child support or alimony of over 25% of his disposible income. Thereby giving the creditor no where to collect from. The balance of his income is deposit into a seperate account under a relitive’s name. He will only be able to use it via internet banking.
He can sleep in his own bed and there is nothing the creditor can do. The debtor can declare bankruptcy and possibly get the debt discharged. If he does he can remarry his ex-wife civily.

I am just curious how the judge will sign an arrest warrant without first recieving a “True Biil” from a Grandl Jury. I do realize that in 2 states they don’t require grand juries but 48 state and the DC require a Grand Jury Indictment prior to an arrest warrant. In those states that don’t require grand jury upon arrest the DA must provide evidence at a probable cuase hearing which is the first hearing after the arrest which the judge must determine iif there is adequate evidence that he committed the crime.
As a general rule, the prosecutor must notify the defendant and allow him to testify at the grand jury telling his side of the story. The defendent is allowed to testify and is allowed to consult with his attorney who is not present at the grand jury. Any testimony given at a grand jury can be used against the witness at trail. The prosecuter can cross examine the defendant and then the prosecuter reads the law and leaves the grandjury to decide to indict or not. When they indict it is called a true bill meaning the DA has enough evidence to charge the defendant.
As a general rule if the defendent has a logical explanation the grandj ury will side with him. In your case you have evidence that the husband lives in his ex-wife’s house for over a week. That doesn’t prove that the divorce is a fraud.
I don’t know what type of evidence the DA is going to subpoena. Nor do I know what evidence the PI will provide. A subponea is a document ordering someone to appear in court. Since the only people with knowledge of the divorce are the husband and the wife beside the court itself whose documents are readily available to the DA. The husband and wife are just going to testify that they are legally divorced. I am not really sure what purpose the subpeonas are going to accomplish other than waste everybodies time.
I am not sure the DA even has probable cause that fraud was even committed.
The fact that the husband is still living in the house with his wife is not grounds to invalidate the divorce in most states including NY & NJ as they can live together before and after the divorce. And even in the states that require seperate living quarters that is before the divorce will be granted not after. So if the PI can submitt evidence that they lived together during the 180-365 day prior to the date the divorce was granted in a state that requires seperation during that period then the divorce maybe invalidated, but that should be handled in divorce court which is civil court not criminal court.
As far as having a different address on his tax return and government id, this is only that he has a place to stay in case his wife kicks him out.
Just like the Rittenhouse case as long as the defendent has a logical explanation the jury and judge are going to side with him. You are falling for the same logic as the DA in the Riienhouse case just becuase you say it’s fraud doesn’t mean it’so.Unless your talking about some make believe evidence that your PI has uncovered.

Abba -“I am just curious how the judge will sign an arrest warrant without first recieving a “True Biil” from a Grandl Jury. Etc. A subponea is a document ordering someone to appear in court…”

LOL!
I’m Not going to teach you Law – Mr. Know – It – All!
On the First line that isn’t the only way to arrest S/O.
On the 2nd line – you are only partially Correct.
I was talking about a different type of Subpoena!

Abba -“I have a friend who gave his son-in-law money for a down payment. The seller backed out of the sale and the money wasn’t returned. He sued both in a din torah and civil court won both times could collect referred the matter to the Ocean County DA’s office in NJ got nowhere.”
“Why would the DA take on a new case which he has to investigate and subpoena evidence before he can prosecute?
The vast majority of the hundreds of backlogged cases are violent cases, so why is your fraud case going to get precedent esspecially when you are not articulating how the DA is going to win a conviction.”

You just proved that you can’t follow your own posts!
We were talking about Ocean County, NJ, Not NYC.
Stop posting things that Don’t make sense, just to have the Last Word!

That’s a pretty bizarre comment. Standing ovations don’t designate heros.

hero from the dictionary:

a person who is admired for great or brave acts or fine qualities

You don’t give a standing ovation if you don’t consider him a hero.

We don’t give a standing ovation for killing people for whatever reason.

Rittenhouse wasn’t being honored for killing or wounding anyone. It was for defending himself with a gun. He was the posterboy for those against gun controll. He is milking his fame to make as much money has he can before he is forgotten.
Kim Potter, a cop charged with mansluagther is another example of someone being unjustly prosecuted.

The idea that the president can voice disagreement with a jury’s verdict is a chutzpah. But when a black man out on bail deliberately drove his car over children (do I need to say that in all caps for it to resonate?) drove his SUV deliberately over children and adults and there was NOTHING. Biden did not visit or make a phone call. Disgusting. And what could possibly be the reason for his inappropriate over involvement in the Rittenhouse case vs zero mentchlichkeit in the case of 6 children hospitalized for ONE WEEK. because BLM took on the (oddly all white) rittenhouse cause, and the other was just a slap in the face to his liberal judicial system “upgrades”.
He makes me sick. And the media not calling him out is shameful (although they probably drive the bus on this one). It has become so hard to live day to day without being slammed by all this insanity. When does it end? How bad does it have to get?