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    Lightbrite
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    Besides the American Girl boy doll, and maybe standard Barbies, are most dolls sold at the toy store for their age-range permissible for girls ages 1-4?

    In other words, are there any dolls that frum girls generally don’t play with?

    Thank you

    #1219726
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    When you said “besides for Barbies” which category were you putting Barbies in? Because I would say that if there’s one doll that Yeshivish girls don’t play with, it’s Barbie.

    #1219727
    huju
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    I am very disappointed. I thought the title of this thread had a typo and the discussion was about pickles.

    #1219728
    👑RebYidd23
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    I read the OP as setting aside boy dolls and Barbies as inappropriate and asking about other dolls.

    #1219729

    Hey, RebYidd, when did you announce that you were a girl?

    #1219730
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    The moderators decided to announce it when one of the posters was offended because she mistakenly thought that RY said something inappropriate to her (which wouldn’t have been inappropriate in any case, but since she’s a girl, it certainly wasn’t).

    #1219731

    Where’s that thread? (How would a moderator know, anyway?

    If it was because RY23 had said so in private communication,

    it doesn’t seem right that they would make it public.)

    #1219732
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    Thanks for explaining, RY. I had missed the word “boy” in American Girl doll. I think that was what confused me.

    #1219733
    👑RebYidd23
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    I know, but I’m not sure I believe it.

    #1219734
    Little Froggie
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    I have a lot to write about this topic, I’m scared Mod are going to chop it in middle….

    #1219735
    Lightbrite
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    Thanks RebYidd for explaining!

    I meant that besides American Girl boy dolls and Barbies, which are inappropriate — are there any other dolls that are a problem, or are the majority of girls dolls in a store okay to buy for little kids?

    I’m talking about dolls of little girls, like a baby doll style (not animals or something specific).

    Thank you

    #1219736
    saralicious
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    I think you may have used up your quota of screen names

    #1219737
    yungermanS
    Participant

    I THOUGHT that we are all male & female dolls. the way we take life like a joke & take it for granted, by simply letting it slip by & wasting our precious time on unimportant things. “Uvacharta B’chaim…” choose life i.e. don’t waste your precious gift of life and appreciate every moment we are given the gift of life by Hashem-by spending your time wisely. Wisely does not need to mean davening & learning, going shopping & spending some family time is also called spending your time wisely

    May you all be benched to start appreciating every moment of life before you start reaching your 60’s & 70’s or older. life is too precious to simply be wasted & thrown down the drain

    #1219738
    Lightbrite
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    LF: Can you send it in pieces?

    #1219739
    zahavasdad
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    American Girl has a Jewish Doll, Rebecca Rubin

    #1219740
    👑RebYidd23
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    I don’t think the AG boy doll is inappropriate, but it doesn’t look like a Jewish boy, so it’s just not applicable. Rebecca Rubin is problematic because after reading the books the message you get is that you can compromise on some of your traditions, replacing some of your Jewishness with Americanism, and be fully Jewish and American.

    The Barbie doll itself is not appropriate, but the youngest Barbie sister dolls might be.

    #1219741
    Meno
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    Is American Girl the one where you can send them a picture of the kid and they make a custom doll that looks like the kid?

    Because I once saw a little boy in shul with a doll that was made to look exactly like him. It had a yarmulke and payos. It was weird.

    #1219742
    👑RebYidd23
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    No, American Girl is the one with the store full of overpriced merchandise.

    #1219744
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    The idea of a doll that is called “American Girl Doll” sounds very goyish to me.

    #1219745
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    There is nothing wrong with the Rebecca Rubin doll other than it costs $100

    I got one for the kids (I got a $50 off coupon) and its very appropirate as its describes life when their ancestors came to NY and the struggles of their grandparents when they first came her.

    And the fact of the matter is , we did change tradtions. We do not speak Yiddish, we speak American (English).

    #1219746
    WinnieThePooh
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    There’s the story that Ruchama Shain wrote in her book about her father, “All for the Boss” when she got a beautiful doll as a child, and her father smashed its face so as to avoid the prohibition of having a pesel (idol).

    So there could be an inyan about dolls being a graven images and not allowed (when whole). I don’t know if that would only apply to a porcelain doll, or to any doll, whether made of plastic or soft material.

    I actually never heard anyone else having this practice. I have seen dolls of all types in many frum homes, and they are intact until the kid over-uses them.

    If you want the parent to still like you, avoid the dolls that make noise or sing the same song over and over and over again.

    #1219747
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    Winnie The Pooh – I have heard of that issue (mainly in books, I think), and it may be a real halachic issue discussed by the Poskim, but l’maaseh, I don’t think I have ever met anyone who was makpid not to bring dolls into their house.

    It seems that there are probably opinions that it’s okay, and most people hold by those opinions. I think the svara to permit it is that the dolls don’t look like people.

    #1219748
    yehudayona
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    LuL, I’m pretty sure there are dolls that look a lot like babies.

    #1219749
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    “If you want the parent to still like you, avoid the dolls that make noise or sing the same song over and over and over again.” (WTP)

    WTP: Great advice! Same goes for buying dog toys 🙂

    #1219750
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Reborn dolls are creepy. And I now have an urge to buy lots of talking and singing dolls for people I know.

    #1219751
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    RebYidd23: Omgoodness… just looked up Reborn dolls.

    They look like real babies.

    Very scary. Very very scary.

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