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  • March 17, 2013 2:24 am at 2:24 am #608635
    Torah613Torah
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    My family is having a machlokes haposkim uposkot on how to sing this zemer. Is this recorded anywhere? What can I google?

    (we had a similar machlokes on Kah Echsof, but L’chayim tish settled that. But to our knowledge, l’chaim tish hasn’t come out with Kol Mekadesh yet.)

    March 17, 2013 2:32 am at 2:32 am #939858
    popa_bar_abba
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    My family also has such machloksim, but we just sing each our own.

    Post what the shailos are.

    (We have a really good seder machlokes. See, some of the kids hagados from school have the anthem from Ossoi Medinah in the back, so some of us sing that. Then, the others respond by drowning them out with B’shilton Hakofrim.)

    March 17, 2013 2:47 am at 2:47 am #939859
    Torah613Torah
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    The problem is, we start low. Then there’s a high part. We can’t agree over which paragraphs are which part. (I will ask my playing by ear siblings what the notes are.)

    LOL PBA – My family does the exact same thing!!! With hatikvah vs. b’shilton… (Full disclosure: I taught them both songs.)

    March 17, 2013 2:55 am at 2:55 am #939860
    147
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    See, some of the kids hagados from school have the anthem from Ossoi Medinah in the back, so some of us sing that.

    As of today we are “Toch Sheloshim Yom” of Yom ha’Atzmaut, so how dare anyone drown out the wonderful Nigunim pertaining to haTikvah, especially this year, that Shas party has given its outright support for the haTikvah to continue status quo.

    March 17, 2013 3:03 am at 3:03 am #939861
    squeak
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    looks like popa has one successful mentee

    March 17, 2013 3:10 am at 3:10 am #939862
    popa_bar_abba
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    Hmmm, we have more subtle differences.

    One is by ????. My father stretches out the word azor and then bunches ??????? ?????? together, while we don’t. Our way is better.

    Another is the last two lines, where there really is an extra line. We solve this by simply repeating the last notes. But my father just bunches both phrases into one line of notes.

    Also, I’m feeling very attacked that someone else was m’chavein to our minhag. It makes me feel less unique.

    March 17, 2013 3:36 am at 3:36 am #939863
    playtime
    Member

    What words do you sing Hatikvah to?

    March 17, 2013 2:43 pm at 2:43 pm #939864
    Torah613Torah
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    I dread opening up topics that have squeak’s name in them.

    PBA – for those differences we just each do our thing, and after a couple of months we get the family-approved version of the song. (i.e., both Azor-lasovsim and azor lasovsim would be fine and even harmonious. But singing a different part of the tune to the same words is not ok.)

    Reference noted.

    talmud: Yehudi. Nobody in my family is that modern.

    *note to self: get notes*

    March 17, 2013 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm #939865
    popa_bar_abba
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    I actually do sing different words in hatikva, based on a recording I heard from pre-war europe in yad v’shem.

    They sang:

    ??? ?? ???? ????????

    ????? ??????

    ???? ???? ???????

    ???? ???? ??? ?? ???

    But, the only part of that I like better is that the tikva was “lashuv l’eretz avoseinu”, I don’t really have a preference whether it was a tikva noshana v. shnot alpaim. So I sing shnot alpaim and yerushalaim, but eretz avoseinu.

    March 18, 2013 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm #939866
    squeak
    Participant

    “I dread opening up topics that have squeak’s name in them.”

    CTM (I think that stands for crying to myself)

    March 19, 2013 2:02 am at 2:02 am #939867
    shnitzy
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    Nebach

    March 19, 2013 2:50 am at 2:50 am #939868
    Torah613Torah
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    Popa: That’s really interesting! Thank you for posting those words.

    Squeak: I was joking. I realize that in conjunction with my other statement it didn’t seem so. And now that I’ve figured out that you’re not female, I get that you’re being sarcastic. (how on earth did you pick a name like squeak?)

    You and PBA have a great dynamic between you, and we all know that there is just no stopping it once both of you post on a topic. 🙂

    March 19, 2013 3:11 am at 3:11 am #939869
    squeak
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    I give up with you people. The C does not actually stand for crying.

    Thanks for the compliment though. PBA made me pretty much obsolete but I’m OK with catching some spillover.

    March 24, 2013 6:30 am at 6:30 am #939870
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    The song starts with: A E D C A C E

    The high part starts with E A A A A A G E A

    Does anyone know which verses to sing with which part?

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