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February 8, 2013 12:51 am at 12:51 am #608119squeakParticipant
Since this is a coffee room, let’s be honest about it. Keurig coffee (i.e. Green Mountain) is horrible. And their cups are ridiculously expensive (not even bringing up the machine). The only way anyone could possibly not see this is coming from a Starbucks addiction- Starbucks coffee is even more expensive, and acrid, so by comparison Keurig is the light at the end of the tunnel. So there’s that.
Let’s talk about the brew method. Drip brew? Nothing of the sort. More like garden hose brew. The water goes into that little cup with so much force that they can’t even use recyclable materials for the cups or it would explode. Not enough bars to make espresso, and too short a brew time for anything conventional. Like shidduch dating.
Yet anyone you talk to who has a Keurig will tell you that it’s the greatest, even though they can never explain why. So I’ll tell you why: so you feel like less of a sucker for having one. Kind of like Amway, except that you don’t make any money off your marks, so it’s just plain rishus. Like shidduchim.
February 8, 2013 12:55 am at 12:55 am #1218411popa_bar_abbaParticipantI make money from them. So I say they are good.
(shkoiach squeak!)
February 8, 2013 1:00 am at 1:00 am #1218412Torah613TorahParticipantI don’t ever drink coffee. Cannot understand how people like the stuff.
February 8, 2013 1:04 am at 1:04 am #1218413ThePurpleOneMemberdoesnt keurig use k cups? so whats green mountain cups?
February 8, 2013 1:43 am at 1:43 am #1218415Ðash®ParticipantSince this is a coffee room, let’s be honest about it. Keurig coffee (i.e. Green Mountain) is horrible.
February 8, 2013 1:52 am at 1:52 am #1218416squeakParticipantAll the other brands are Green Mountain too (see they tricked you good).
February 8, 2013 3:06 am at 3:06 am #1218417☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe worst are Starbucks K-Cups. Tarti l’reyusa.
February 8, 2013 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #1218418jbaldy22MemberI get an unlimited amount of K-Cups at work so I am not complaining. and yes their patents are expiring.
February 8, 2013 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #1218419☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantJbaldy22,
Are there any non-kosher varieties of K-Cups, and if so, how do you deal with the kashrus issues of using a public machine?
February 10, 2013 3:00 am at 3:00 am #1218420Ðash®ParticipantAre there any non-kosher varieties of K-Cups,
According to Keurig:
February 10, 2013 4:01 am at 4:01 am #1218421February 10, 2013 4:39 am at 4:39 am #1218422jewishfeminist02Member“Keurig coffee is horrible…yet anyone you talk to who has a Keurig machine will tell you it’s the greatest, even though they can never explain why.”
It’s a matter of personal taste. I don’t have a Keurig machine, but I happen to like the taste of Keurig coffee and enjoy a cup whenever I am in an office or other setting that does have a machine. If anyone who likes something you don’t is a “troll”, I think the entire world qualifies.
February 10, 2013 5:01 am at 5:01 am #1218423avhabenMemberSay it ain’t so, jf02. The last time you were with us you hadn’t ever drunk a cup of coffee (until we convinced you to take your first sip…)
February 10, 2013 6:12 am at 6:12 am #1218424jewishfeminist02MemberOh right, I forgot about that! I’ve since come to fall in love with coffee 🙂 I drink it with cream, no sugar. Coffee flavored anything is also great. I had some coffee ice cream earlier tonight. I am by no means addicted, but I do take advantage of the caffeine content occasionally when I need to drive late at night.
February 10, 2013 6:24 am at 6:24 am #1218425ThePurpleOneMemberwow everyone takes their coffee veerry serously!! i drink coffee but never the real stuff.. i drink decaf and not brewed type.. i have zero patience!! plus caffeine makes me rly hyper.. and i dont wana get addicted..
anyone else drink 2 second coffee??
February 10, 2013 9:22 pm at 9:22 pm #1218426Ðash®ParticipantAll the other brands are Green Mountain too (see they tricked you good).
- Ghirardelli
February 10, 2013 10:31 pm at 10:31 pm #1218427snowbunny3318MemberAre those the coffee machines you see in therapy clinics in the states/ jcc?
December 9, 2014 11:50 am at 11:50 am #1218428JosephParticipantIf a Keurig machine was previously used with a milichigs K-Cup coffee flavor, does that prevent it ever being used after a fleishig meal even with a pareve k-cup flavor?
December 9, 2014 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm #1218429☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantNo, but the bigger issue would be for someone who is makpid on keilim for cholov stam.
December 9, 2014 2:03 pm at 2:03 pm #1218431YW Moderator-29 👨💻ModeratorWouldn’t it be a bigger issue that there isn’t a way to toivel it?
December 9, 2014 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #1218432popa_bar_abbaParticipantI just passed a spilled coffee all over the floor in the mall. I’ll just keep walking and pretend it wasn’t me. Like shidduchim.
December 9, 2014 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #1218433☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant29, that depends who owns it. In fact, though, aside from the cost, I am not interested in having a Keurig machine because of the tevilah issue.
December 9, 2014 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #1218434☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantPopa, aren’t you a K-cup fan?
December 9, 2014 2:56 pm at 2:56 pm #1218435popa_bar_abbaParticipantOf course I am!
December 9, 2014 4:42 pm at 4:42 pm #1218436Avram in MDParticipantPopa is Brian Kelley’s top adviser 🙂
December 9, 2014 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm #1218437popa_bar_abbaParticipantPopa owns 62% of K-cup through a series of shell companies and nominees that include Yeshivaworld.com. Ever wonder why this is called the coffee room?
December 9, 2014 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm #1218438YW Moderator-💯ModeratorI want a raise.
December 10, 2014 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm #1218439JosephParticipantWhy is it not a problem to drink after fleishigs but is a problem for people who are makpid on keilim for cholov stam?
December 10, 2014 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #1218440☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThey weren’t gozer blios on hamtanah, but l’chatchilah, kelim with blios of issur remain assur until kashered.
December 10, 2014 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm #1218441popa_bar_abbaParticipantBecause cholov stam is a davar sh’yesh lo matirim, so it isn’t battul.
December 10, 2014 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #1218442Avram in MDParticipantLior,
I believe you can cook something pareve in a clean dairy utensil and then eat it right after a fleshig meal; however, you cannot cook something in a clean non-kosher utensil. People who hold that they cannot cook with chalav stam utensils (e.g., they are not kosher), therefore, would have a problem.
December 15, 2014 12:35 am at 12:35 am #1218443JosephParticipantSo, effectively, once a Keurig machine has been used with an OU-D K-Cup, anyone makpid on Cholov Yisroel cannot utilize that machine, including with pareve K-Cups, or allow their keilim to be used with the coffee produced from that machine, even if it’s pareve.
December 15, 2014 2:12 am at 2:12 am #1218444☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantanyone makpid on Cholov Yisroel
Only if they’re also makpid on keilim would it be a problem (at least with one pareve cycle in between).
or allow their keilim to be used with the coffee produced from that machine
No, that should be fine after 24 hours.
December 15, 2014 4:31 am at 4:31 am #1218445JosephParticipant“Only if they’re also makpid on keilim would it be a problem”
What’s the logic of being makpid on eating Cholov Yisroel but not makpid that the keilim remain Cholov Yisroel?
December 15, 2014 5:36 am at 5:36 am #1218446☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI don’t know; I am. But some aren’t, although I think they should go together.
December 15, 2014 10:29 am at 10:29 am #1218447–ParticipantWhat’s the logic of being makpid on eating Cholov Yisroel but not makpid that the keilim remain Cholov Yisroel?
Because having a Chumrah to only eat CY doesn’t make non-CY into Issur. But if you hold that non-CY is real Treif, it would affect the Keilim.
December 15, 2014 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm #1218448Avram in MDParticipantDaasYochid and Lior,
Wouldn’t the difference be between people who follow Rav Moshe Feinstein’s ruling that chalav stam certified by USDA in the U.S. is kosher, but it’s still good to be makpid on chalav Yisroel (thus they eat chalav Yisroel, but aren’t so concerned about the keilim) vs. people who don’t hold by Rav Feinstein regarding chalav stam (thus they would be concerned about keilim since they consider chalav stam to be non-kosher)?
December 15, 2014 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #1218449☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDash and Avram, cholov aku”m assers keilim. If one is makpid on cholov Yisroel, this presumably means he is at least choshesh that cholov Yisroel needs actual r’iyah, as many of the gedolei haposkim held, even if mei’ikar hadin he goes with Rav Moshe..
According to this chashash, what we call “cholov stam”, or, “cholov hacompanies”, would in fact be cholov aku” m, so why wouldn’t he be makpid on keilim as well?
December 15, 2014 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm #1218450–ParticipantIf one is makpid on cholov Yisroel,
Yet you (or at least I) wouldn’t say that someone is Makpid on Bishul Yisroel, in contrast I would say that someone is Makpid on Pas Yisroel.
February 23, 2017 11:59 am at 11:59 am #1218451LightbriteParticipant4yo thread
Hashem is so good! I asked a question about Cholov Yisroel in a Cholov Stam kitchen. It hasn’t even posted yet.
Then I find the answer here.
Yays 🙂
February 23, 2017 2:54 pm at 2:54 pm #1218452hujuParticipantRe the opening post: here’s why I like my Keurig:
1. K-cup coffee at Costco is about $0.75 each, about half the cost of coffee at a bagel shop or other carry-out.
2. Coffee taste is a matter of personal … taste. I have found a number of varieties that are excellent. I don’t know about the garden hose brewing, but what matters is what’s in the coffee cup and whether or not it is to your liking.
3. Keurig is convenient. Much easier than brewing a whole pot.
So, opening poster, what makes me a sucker?
February 23, 2017 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #1218453golferParticipantYou shouldn’t be getting your answers here Lightb.
No yays.
February 23, 2017 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #1218454feivelParticipantFebruary 23, 2017 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #1218455MenoParticipantThe refillable k-cups kill half of the convenience aspect
February 23, 2017 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #1218456Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantDY – I think that many people who are makpid on cholov yisrael do so as a chumra. It’s not just that they hold by Rav Moshe zatsal m’ikar hadin; their being machmir is also based on Rav Moshe zatsal, since R’ Moshe poskened that one should be machmir when chalav yisrael is available.
Since their being machmir is based on R’Moshe & R’Moshe held that chalav stam is kosher, it would seem that they shouldn’t have to worry about the keilim.
Additionally, when I had sheilah recently about eating in people’s homes who use unreliable hashgachos, I was told that if it’s aino ben yomo, it’s fine. So that logic should apply here as well.
I believe that Lubavitchers hold that chalav stam is completely assur (chalav akum), so it more of a problem for them. Although, perhaps the last point would still apply (if the keilim are in fact “aino ben yomo”)
February 23, 2017 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #1218457feivelParticipantthis one doesnt use filters. its about the same tircha as making instant coffee.
but yes k cups, 15 times more expensive and 20 times less versatile, are more convenient.
February 24, 2017 2:31 am at 2:31 am #1218458LightbriteParticipantgolfer: If I wasn’t laughing at your “No yays” then I’d be crying.
Since I’ve never been told “No yays” and I know that you meant it, it’s amusing.
Awww. Well. It may have not been the official answer but it does shed light on how some people keep CY and yet will eat it in a kitchen that usually has CS. Meanwhile some are makpid on both a CY and CY kitchen.
And my OP on the other thread asked about how it works in reality in people’s homes and what they consume.
Still, good point. I should ask my LOR for clarification and the real “answer.” Todah rabbah for redirecting me 🙂
April 3, 2017 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #1249399zaltzvasserParticipantI like Keurig ’cause they gave me a free coffee machine
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