k-9 filter

Canines should not eat gefilter fish.

bobchka- what is called? where could i get it? pls let me know cuz i’m looking for a good free filter

I have it and I do like it. I didn’t notice any slowing down of the computer. I don’t find the setup very difficult either. If it blocks something that I don’t want blocked it wasn’t difficult to change. I like that you can shut down the internet overnight or whatever hours you want. Best of all my teenagers haven’t yet figured out how to get around it.

theres no need for a filter you shouldnt have internet

I have been using it for a while now and have not experienced any major issues. My internet has not slowed down because of it. Definitely recommend it.

I recommend OpenDNS – a good, fast filter.

contemplate ho many issurim you avoided and by the time you have begun thinking your page will have loaded.

Rabbaim- I have come to respect a lot of what you say, but your approach here is way off. It is statements like the ones you made that divided the klal from their rabbonim. It assumes that the internet user would have been oiver issurim in his or her regular internet use, which is not true. It is also absurd to think that the person will use the delay time to pontificate each and every time a server request is made (maybe once, maybe 10 times, but after that its just a nuisance).

K9 shouldn’t noticeably slow your connection and if it does maybe there is something wrong with your setup or maybe it interferes with your other programs like anti virus or firewall. Someone should research this further.

“It is statements like the ones you made that divided the klal from their rabbonim. It assumes that the internet user would have been oiver issurim in his or her regular internet use, which is not true.”

You are assuming that they aren’t oiver every single click unless something bad comes up but every click is a sakana, the overall lifestyle of using a computer that way is a sakana for something bad to eventually happen. It is a ticking time bomb and therefore you are oiver by putting yourself at its eventual mercy.

Think of it like yichud, you can me meyacheid with somebody and not actually do any issur with her but you were still oiver on putting yourself into a makom sakana. The issur isn’t just the act itself, there is an additional issur of lo sikrivu. A yirei shamayim should realize this and therefore understand that even the “muttar” Internet use is an issur here.

“It is also absurd to think that the person will use the delay time to pontificate each and every time a server request is made (maybe once, maybe 10 times, but after that its just a nuisance).”

Of course they won’t think about this during every millisecond of every delay but the overall mindset should be that the extra tircha is well worth it. I try to think of it this way, every year the speed of computers and connections goes up, just a few years ago we were ecstatic to have even half the speed we have now, so just have patience and understand that it isn’t “that bad” to have to go through the extra bit of tircha. It might take some getting used to but eventually you get used to it and it becomes just part of the experience, a minor annoyance. Computers give us minor annoyances all the time, it freezes up for a few seconds, you frantically move the mouse around for 5 SECONDS while you go crazy thinking the world is about to end. We live in a fast paced world and people really need to take a step back and practice some savlanus.

(I have this same issue with drivers, people are in such a rush, changing lanes, honking horns, and what does it save them? Maybe if they’re lucky it will shave 30 seconds off a 10 minute drive. It’s really not that big of a deal in the long run. This mindset is what causes people to text and answer calls while driving. I was driving with someone the other day, we were less than 2 minutes from our destination and his cell phone rings. He made such a big deal of getting it out and answering as if the world would end if he missed the call and put us in sakana in the process. The proper thing to do would have been to just ignore the call and called the person back 2 minutes later. 2 minutes is not that long! It’s not the end of the world. Savlanut!)

If the internet usage is for casual/recreational use, home use, then I don’t see why the k9 filter (some slowing down) should be a problem.

If it’s for work usage, consulting a qualified frum computer technician will help you choose the correct filter (at the router level is much safer).

Although there may be cost involved, keeping your computer running efficiently and keeping yourself protected is worth the cost.

Livelovelaugh, thank you that’s what I was trying to say and that’s the reason why some people see the slow down and others don’t.

erm_saywhat, most new k9 setups should include a proxy filter. So for most users that should be enough to make it difficult to get around it.

its 99% effective, i found some flaws

I don’t have or want k-9, so long as I don’t have to because I don’t want anything “taking control” of my computer. Of course if I had to I would. Instead we have Jnet, all it’s filtering gets done in the base. Also, there is no temptation to undo, it is my connection. Iv’e been on it a long time and I’m happy with it. It gets slow (ok, really s l o w) sometimes, that’s the small price I pay for trying to keep clean.

the k-9 filter from what i heard works and u never know how hard a nissuyan is going to be with unfiltered internet for a teen

I have used it for some years now and it works extremely well and my office colleague has the password. I have also blocked it from accessing youtube which is one of the biggest Sakonois of the internet. The reason I say that is because most peolple dont browse bad sites intentionally but just looking for a chazonus clip on youtube can lead onto the worst clips. Having youtube blocked means I cant get the video clips on YWN etc but it is a small price to pay. I have asked YWN to try and sort this but it hasnt yet happened.

I dont know what you consider “cheap android phone”. I have Netspark installed on an LG Stylo. works the way it is supposed to.

K9 filters Youtube.

As far as slowing down the internet is concerned, my experience is that it depends on how you use K9. It was designed (I imagine) with the idea that a few categories would be blocked, and say 90% open. So when you try to access any given website, it only needs to check that website against 10% of their blacklist. This is fairly quick.

However if you try to use k9 to block almost anything then it goes very slowly, as it has to check almost every category.

When I went to TAG to ask that they install k9 for me, I specifically asked them not to block categories like smoking. That category is for smoking addicts, there is no reason whatsoever why your standard frum Jew would want to block this. There are quite a lot of categories like this. I respect TAGs mentality of Ossur unless proven Mutar/necessary, but this is what slows down TAG in my experience.

With regard to how easy it is to circumvent k9, I got TAG to install it and didn’t do it myself for 2 reasons:
1) So I also wouldn’t know the password
2) They install several extra things which I understand are designed to make it harder to uninstall k9. (Word of warning: I had to access regedit and similar things a few weeks later and wasn’t able to, I suspect this was because of these things they installed. If you don’t know what regedit is then that won’t be a problem for you. AWoman_Outside_bklyn says she works in computers, so just letting you know)

Which free filters for Android are available?

One of the options of K9 is a YouTube filter. It is supposed to filter out the bad videos. I don’t know how effective it is, but it is supposed to filter (not block) YouTube.

I find their pop-ups, or toast notifications, very annoying. You can’t move it to a different location or get rid of it any faster than it decides to stick around. At times there are multiple notifications and I can’t access those items on the tray our even seer the time.

I wrote to them but, as TAG has pointed out, they don’t care about this free try-out product and haven’t updated it in years.

I used to use openDNS but for some reason Optimum does not allow a custom dns. And worse, they deny it.

I’ve used it on other networks but I don’t recall using it successfully on Optimum Wi-Fi. I even tried switching back and forth between my phone’s hotspot and Optimum. Through my phone it worked but not on Optimum.

(unrelated to k9) the actual youtube filter isnt that good. even the ‘youtube kids’ app doesnt always have videos appropriate for kids… completely innapropriate stuff, not only bad for jewihs people, have been found there. so yeah
(k9) its pretty good but it blocks every ‘unrated site’ so all blogs and things like that will be blocked (not major ones, but family ones or the like)