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Can a frum man or woman become an astronaut?
There’s a bit of a disconnect here…
In the same sense can a frum man or woman move to Alaska near the Arctic Circle?
Well, the spacesuit one wears on the moon might be considered beged ish….
and kiddush levana.
and zmanim for tifella also.
and birchas haelanos.
and (probably) others which i cant think of right now.
Supposedly somebody once asked R’ Avigdor Miller how to do kiddush levana on the moon. R’ Avigdor Miller gave him a quarter and said “When you get there, call me”.
showjoe: are you serious that one of the problems of being on the moon is kiddush l’vana?
showjoe: are you serious that one of the problems of being on the moon is kiddush l’vana?
Well, what is considered “seeing the moon” for kiddush l’vana?
Is that condition met while standing on the moon?
mw13: great story
SSD: this is not a serious thread.
but that point was not any less serious than my other points.
why are you asking?
the main point, it seems, for kiddush l’vana is HAshem renewing of the moon.
so if your on the light side of the moon, than would you be able to make kiddush l’vana?
and lets say you go to the dark side, and than back to the light side, does that count as renewing? or can you say renewing is only a din is seeing the moon, and since you can always see the moon if your on it(i suppose), it does count as renewal?
I heard somewhere but I forget where that a Jewish person is not supposed to go to the moon because it says in Tehillim “Hashamayim shamayim laHashem, v’haaretz nasan lifnei ha’adam” meaning that the earth belongs to man and the heavens belongs to Hashem. so yeah
I think the chazon ish has a teshuva about what to do in space. i think twelve hours exactly always.
Zemanim for tefilla is not an issue at all, since the astronaut would be precluded from davening because of ???? ????? ????.
showjoe, I just meant, like is that even something you must take into consideration? Not being able to say k”l? Maybe… it just sounds funny (acc. to many, k”l is a birchas haro’eh, so lichorah there’s no problem in making yourself unable to be m’kayyeim it)
CY, didn’t get your last post
Maybe that’s why they jump when they say ????? ???? ????? ??, just in case he’s actually on the moon.
When on spacewalks, astronauts wear maximum absorption garments (In English, we call these diapers). This is because it is too time consuming to reenter the shuttle or space station each time the astronaut needs to relieve himself. I suppose that eventually there could be constructed a pressurized environment on the moon, but as of now anyone on the moon [or anywhere else outside of a pressurized atmosphere] is not allowed to say (or even think) any ???? ????? because they do not have a ??? ??? (and, of course, their ???? is not ????).
However, while in the shuttle or space station, they are able to maintain ??? ??? and ????? ?????, so my earlier post responds to the thread title but not the OP.
Just behave in front of the other jewish astronauts you don’t want to cause mars ayin by eating non kosher food tubes.
Maybe that’s why they jump when they say ????? ???? ????? ??, just in case he’s actually on the moon.
Brilliant.
Halachically there isn’t a problem, but the ways in which astronauts and selected and trained make it unlikely (e.g. a high percentage are military test pilots).
Rav Menashe Klein tz”l discusses some halachos about the moon in Mishne Halachos (6:259)
Maybe that’s why they jump when they say ????? ???? ????? ??, just in case he’s actually on the moon.
You seem to understand that ?? is referring to the moon. I heard about one rabbi who stopped saying that phrase once Neil Armstrong (allegedly) landed on the moon. However, I think pashut p’shat is that it’s referring to Hashem. Who dances to the moon?
Highly doubt it. Comparison doesn’t make sense. “Just as we cannot touch HaShem, so too may our enemies not touch us”?
We don’t dance TO the moon. Me make a motion as if we’re jumping towards it. (I heard of something very important – one must be careful not to bend his knees while jumping, lest it be deemed bowing c”v.
I understand my way better than yours, but you’re right anyway. Tur 426 says to dance toward the moon and say, etc. (dif. nusach there, BTW)
(acc. to many, k”l is a birchas haro’eh, so lichorah there’s no problem in making yourself unable to be m’kayyeim it)
woops. I got mixed up. They quote R’ Isser Zalman Meltzer as saying it’s a birkas haro’eh but most sources indicate otherwise. (don’t ask me for them; I’m just repeating a shi’ur I heard once, but basically, the mg”a says K”l is a mitzvas aseih shehazman g’rama, so he obviously doesn’t think it’s a birkas haro’eh [which is actually where R’ Meltzer is quoted as having to come to argue] snd a shu”t nodeh bihudah regarding interrupting kri’as m’gillah to be mekadeish the l’vana, so obviously it’s not a birkas haro’eh, or he would’ve just said to not look)
there is a sefer one can read online at hebrewbooks.org called “ha’adam al hayareach” by a R’ M. Kasher. Perhaps he answers your question.
I haven’t seen the Sefer yet, but here is a link to it.
In case anyone can’t find the link,
it’s the word “here” in the above post.
(It’s a good idea to put brackets around links, like >so<.)
Bump to find out if Yekke2 has rejected
my suggestion or simply hasn’t seeen it.
how is it physically possible to jump without bending knees?
By not actually jumping but by bouncing your heals.
Can you make Kiddush when you are on the levanah?
Locking your knees while bouncing on your heels is bad for your back and knees.
Even on the moon with a much smaller forces of gravity?
they asked the first frum astronaut how it was being in outer space
his answer: tiring, all day, shachris mincha maariv, shachris mincha maariv…
The two northernmost orthodox synagogues in the world are in Trondheim, Norway; and in Anchorage, Alaska. They have adopted different solutions to this problem.
is the green cheese on the moon chalav yisroel? i call the lunar rover!!
skripka, you want to if the green cheese on the moon is chalav yisroel? Ask Alice Kramden.
actually, come to think of it? if it’s green I think i’ll pass (out)
The definitive sefer on the subject has already been written.
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