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As we all know, Joseph and squeak have been shteiging away in the Bais Medrash recently so have not been able to post in the Coffee room. Tonight being nittul nact, I think that we should hold a chess game between them. If you are here, show yourselves!!
I’m still waiting for squeak to finish with SJS.
who said squeak is chasedish
Nittel nacht was instituted in Europe when the Christians would go out and kill Jews on Christmas. The Chazon Ish said that in a country where there is no such danger, nittel nacht doesn’t apply, and is in fact nothing more than bittul Torah.
Nittel Nacht predates the Chasidim. And the Chasam Sofer held of it.
Mod 42: Wow! You brought them both out!
You are GOOD.
What are Moderators still doing up? Don’t they have to get up for shacharis tomorrow?
The only retarded person who is still up flooding YWN with comments is some guy Halelujah.
c’mon Moderators, you’re too tired to repond?
Was in the middle of responding while you were posting this. Now can we get back on topic please?
Insomnia? Different time zone? Just got up for tikkun chatzos?
Nittul Nacht is already over. I stayed up to bedavka learn after Nittel Nacht of course…but how can I get up without checking in in the YWN coffee room (okay maybe I’m being dan lekaf zechus to myself)
According to the chassam sofer, Nittel nacht follows the Eastern Orthodox (Julian) calendar, not the modern Gregorian.
i’m happy to announce that i learned for a long time on nitul nacht. some people have a minug to go to sleep early and get up at chatzos on nitul nacht and learn. One of the maggidei shiur in my yeshiva (TORAH VODAATH) told his shiur to get up 4AM AND learn
Jothar, so you posek the Orthodox Patriarchs instead of the Catholic Priests? đ
coming up this thursday again acording to some.
You have to understand, some people are very machmir when it comes to this Minhag.
BS”D
In Ukraine and Russia we do nitel next Thursday. Last year I inadvertently did it on the 24th as well and I was told it was not correct to do so.
Tonight is nitel for me as far as work is concerned because unlike the 25th which is not a legal holiday here and the 6th which is not a legal holiday in the Western world, it is a holiday everywhere and I can’t even accomplish much online as I don’t deal with EY or Asia where it might not count for much. Because the streets are crowded with drunks and illegal fireworks I can’t safely get to the beis medrash or any other place where Yidden might be together.
So I am posting away here until the fireworks show which I will watch since I can see it from my balcony and I am hardly joining the celebrations by watching from here :).
BS”D
In Creedmoor, our 150 quintillion multiple personalities of our dear Admou”r argue among themselves as to when nitel is. To keep order, the Admou”r has long since proclaimed all 1000 nights of the Plutonian calendar year to be nitel.
In Atlantic City and Las Vegas they follow the chumra of the Admor MiCreedmor and are machmir to play not just every night of the year misafek, but even during the day. All day, every day.
1.e4 e5
How’d you get there?
Picking up the pieces.
Your move, squeak.
whos up now to learn after chatzos
You’re 2 weeks too late, aren’t you?
Orthodox Nittel.
Your move, squeak.
I just learned chumash right before nittel chazos! Yes! no bittul Torah here.
squeak, I’m still waiting for your move.
Hopefully squeak will soon be back here to make his move, now that we’re almost two years into Covid.
Checkmate.
You canât checkmate someone that didnât play
If you could I would be able to checkmate all the chess masters without seeing them
Is there any record or documentation that any of our gedolim were chess players?
When your opponent forfeits the game, you win by default.
Gadol: There’s at least one famous picture of one of the gedolim playing chess on nittul nacht.
Joe,
He never started playing and he never said he forfeited he never even agreed to play
Thanks for brining back some memories of the good old days. Squeak is on vacation and I’m not sure if he’s checking the Coffee Room before he returns.
Instead of considering it a forfeit send him an e-mail, he’s pretty responsive.
(He left his email address in this encrypted message. You’ll either need to remember which thread I left the cypher in or get your own team of Polish Cryptographers.)
I think this year Motzei Shabbos over takes Nitel Nacht.
See Yabia Omer YD (7,20) who describes the custom in detail. People, who learn at night, should sleep before chatzos and get up to learn afterwards.
Dr. Pepper, I’ve had the practice of emailing him a few times a year, before each Yom Tov, over the last decade. (And cc:ing it to his alt email, in case he didn’t check the other.)
Have you been using the one in the encrypted message? Thatâs the one I contact him on for Coffee Room related correspondence.
We keep nitel not the night to Dec 25 but the night to Jan 6 as pope Gregory removed 13 days in 1582 which was discussed on Tal Umotor Reminder.
Some keep it on Jan 7. This is depending if Dec 25 is inclusive in the 13 days or not.
Reb Eliezer, it depends whether you’re Orthodox or not. (I assume you’re Orthodox.)
Dr. Pepper, I’ve been communicating with squeak using these two addresses since 2009 (though his last substantial reply was around the time Trump came down the escalator). Going from memory, I think, but aren’t certain, that one of the two is the same as what’s in the encrypted message.
Nitel nacht, like Saturnalia before it, correlates with shortest day of the year. So, backwards Russkies celebrating it in January is minhag taut and need to be abolished. hope that still remaining chief rabbis of rushia can deliver this message to the chief rasha. although it seems to be sakono nefoshos lately to contradict them, so maybe russian yidden should continue doing nittel nacht in January l’darchei sholom v’briut.
I gave Squeak a heads up that youâre going to be looking forward to continuing your game of chess but he said that he wasnât planning on participating.
Sorry
Dr. Pepper
I think he wants you to take his place and play instead of him
Dr Pepper:
Does this not mean that he’s resigned?
I just learned this year that × ××ת was when yoshke was born and it was taken as a fast day
Coffee addict
Really is that so?
If that’s honestly true can you please tell us which day this is in the English calendar that the Christians fast every year so that if I ask one of them they will tell me it’s true? Cause I never heard from any Christian person I know that they have any fast days throughout the entire year.
Please let us know so it can be clarified for everyone
Thank you
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