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November 17, 2015 12:49 am at 12:49 am #616665sm29Participant
I like how there are different types of Jewish music to pick from. Chassidish, Sephardic, soft songs, dance songs, rock, electronic, acoustic, A Capella etc. Some original tunes, some covers of songs.
When one does a cover of a song like from the radio, it should be something tasteful. For example, the band Avicii has pretty good songs, and so when they are in Jewish songs, it’s nice and tasteful.
However, inappropriate songs made into Jewish songs, in my opinion is kind of disturbing because in your head is the original song.
I would like for singers to be more careful with which songs they choose for covers. Shalom 🙂
November 17, 2015 1:34 am at 1:34 am #1113022pcozMemberKlezmer is authentically Jewish but unfortunately most klezmer groups are not frum.
November 17, 2015 11:23 am at 11:23 am #1113023[email protected]ParticipantMaybe you could stop listening to non jewish music, or at least inappropriate songs, so you wouldn’t think about them when a jewish singer decides to cover them.
November 17, 2015 2:27 pm at 2:27 pm #1113024👑RebYidd23ParticipantStores play music.
November 17, 2015 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm #1113025technical21ParticipantThere are many times where it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the original song is non-Jewish.
Also, there is at least one group whose tunes are all taken straight from non-Jewish songs, and the words changed to mimic the non-Jewish one. I think it became particularly obvious when “Candlelight” came out…
November 17, 2015 3:45 pm at 3:45 pm #1113026👑RebYidd23ParticipantCan you legally pretend that the original song never existed and call it a parody at the same time?
November 18, 2015 2:03 am at 2:03 am #1113027☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲Participant[WARNING: This post was written by a music snob.]
I like how there are different types of Jewish music to pick from. Chassidish, Sephardic, soft songs, dance songs, rock, electronic, acoustic, A Capella etc.
And yet, they all taste the same to me.
When one does a cover of a song like from the radio,
it should be something tasteful.
Agreed.
I’d like to add that the song should actually be a good song.
(Although, if they’re not going to make a good song with it,
which they probably aren’t, it might as well be a bad song.
Actually, I’m not sure which is worse, having to listen to bad music,
or having to listen to a good song remade not-as-good.)
However, inappropriate songs made into Jewish songs, in my opinion is kind of disturbing because in your head is the original song.
It’s also disturbing because it means that the people who make your Jewish music listen to inappropriate songs (and as far as some are concerned,
it’s probably disturbing that they listen to non-Jewish music at all.)
November 18, 2015 3:11 am at 3:11 am #1113028Torah613TorahParticipantI agree with the OP. We need to filter the wheat from the chaff when taking in things from the outside world.
November 18, 2015 4:21 am at 4:21 am #1113029Mashiach AgentMemberToday’s Jewish music singers sing pure goyish music songs R”L with a goyish taam just changing the words to Jewish words thus bringing the Kedusha of k lal Yisroel down and also causing people to go off the derech R”L
Read the Sefer on music and how each kind of music has different effects on a persons life in how it changes the way he does things and the way he lives etc…
November 18, 2015 5:46 am at 5:46 am #1113030👑RebYidd23ParticipantJewish people didn’t just start taking goyish music recently. It’s just that when canned music became readily available, it became that much easier.
November 18, 2015 7:14 am at 7:14 am #1113031☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantWhich sefer are you referring to, Mashiach Agent?
(Through Music and Song? Ki D’var Hashem Bozo (I hope not)?)
November 18, 2015 8:11 am at 8:11 am #1113032Mashiach AgentMemberThe Sefer is a thin book that was placed in many Shul throughout the country about what each type of music listened to causes in a person physically and how it affects his neshama and ruchnius
But i forgot the exact name of the Sefer
November 18, 2015 9:29 pm at 9:29 pm #1113033sm29Participant””Maybe you could stop listening to non jewish music, or at least inappropriate songs, so you wouldn’t think about them when a jewish singer decides to cover them.””’
I heard a certain song in a chocolate commercial, the song is inappropriate. I know, some might say don’t watch tv. But the point is why is the Jewish singer listening to inappropriate songs. Okay, people can do what they want. But don’t turn it into a Jewish song where people know where it comes from and think of the original. _ I prefer that people find Good or Okay Non-Jewish songs to make covers of, so we can infuse holiness into the song. For example, Hashem Melech that Elbaz sings is a Great tune from a Non-Jewish source. And AKA Pella also sings that song and put a tune from Avicii’s song ‘The Nights’ in there which is an okay song.
Just saying when people make covers, make sure it’s from a good or okay song. Stay holy 🙂
November 18, 2015 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm #1113034👑RebYidd23ParticipantBut if it’s a good song, why can’t people just listen to the original?
November 19, 2015 1:28 am at 1:28 am #1113035charliehallParticipantOther than the atonal music of Arnold Schoenberg, I can’t think of any Jewish music that hasn’t been influenced by non-Jewish musical styles.
November 19, 2015 8:57 pm at 8:57 pm #1113036B1g B0yParticipantAbie Rottenberg
November 19, 2015 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #1113037HashemisreadingParticipantGershon Veroba
November 19, 2015 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm #1113038☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantBut if it’s a good song, why can’t people just listen to the original?
Because they don’t listen to secular music. Anyway, parodies are funny.
November 20, 2015 1:19 am at 1:19 am #1113039☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantThe Sefer is a thin book that was placed in many Shul throughout the country about what each type of music listened to causes in a person physically and how it affects his neshama and ruchnius
Yes, that’s the one that I wrote I hoped it wasn’t, and
that’s not exactly what it’s about, which is too bad,
because that would probably have been more interesting
(assuming a reliable source of such information exists).
(Mods, if you feel the need to reject this post,
can you just edit out the part under the line?)
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It’s more like the following ideas, in order:
Music can have a bad influence on you.
The current state of modern society is due to its music.
Many have said that rock and roll has a bad influence.
Modern Jewish music is rock and roll.
Rock and roll (and therefore modern Jewish music) is African music.
Rock and roll has negative physical effects on the body.
Modern Jewish music is bad for frum society.
Action must be taken to combat modern Jewish music.
Whether there is any reason these ideas should be believed
is a question that the book does not have a good answer for.
Sometimes this is evident from the book itself,
and sometimes additional information is necessary.
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