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just to clarify if you wear jeans you obviously aren’t a real jew and you don’t daven or learn ever, and you like mixed dancing. of course they are assur.
“just to clarify if you wear jeans you obviously aren’t a real jew and you don’t daven or learn ever, and you like mixed dancing. of course they are assur.”
I think I need a drink after reading that.
it was widely quoted and probably commonly witnessed that the Chazon Ish ztl generally wore the garments of a “laborer” Do we know why, and what were his kavonos?
Sammygol, I hope that was in jest. I use my hands to make a living and thank Hashem every day for the opportunity. And, tangetially, I now work in cotton/poly blues, and I can tell you there is nothing quite as comfortable as indigo denim overalls. Yishtabach Shemo.
Koma
What do YOU think?
I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with wearing jeans.
(If you’re a painter, or plumber.)
I venture to say that the Ribono shel Olam cares a lot more about official minyanim after the latest z’man tefila, that about the nusach used, more about being not offending the public with dirty clothing and body odor, that about jeans, and more about the time spent learning, than about the language one translates the Gemara into.
Where have the priorities gone to?
bein_hasdorim, and if you’re not a painter or plumber, jeans are assur? So no frum Jews can wear jeans since frum Jews can’t be painters or plumbers, es past nisht.
Truth,
There seems to be a heter for an electrician as well, but only be’shaas had’chak and if it’s hefsed meruba.
But can you wear a colored shirt with jeans?
And carpenters can of course wear carpenter jeans.
Painters, plumbers, and electricians are all honorable professions.
Where would we be without them?
Fashion critics, on the other hand, strike me as, well, —not as useful to society.
Whether the criticism is based on the fashion advice in Paris, Rome, or Brooklyn, or Lakewood.
It’s not Rome, it’s Milan. Don’t you know ANYTHING about high fashions? And they make designer jeans there too, nice ones.
I guess I don’t.
And designer jeans are not my thing.
I do, by the way, work with designer genes.
Yes Star, and I cut and sew what the mutant ones create.
Well, according to the fashion police here, I guess that precludes you from wearing jeans.
Now let’s talk about scrubs.
Scrubs are far more comfy, trust me
I see no differance between jeans and canvas pants.
Yes, unfortunately most scrubs are in blue, or a shade thereof, which will be reviled on another thread. What can you do except group therapy, but that isn’t my field.
The problem with jeans in my opinion is, that by wearing it you’re making a statement, just like when you smoke.
P.S. (Imagine to yourself the picture of the stereotypical bum. Long hair,jeans,crocs,smoking)
Sorry if I offended anybody!
dok36, You have raised the ire of the libs! (I already see sammy writing a 10 stanza poem denouncing you… it starts with dok is a dope, for whom there is no hope. Chill sammy, its only a joke.)
dok36-
You are making a statement to those that judge by appearances.
While I would admit that that is a majority of people–is that what we should be doing?
Well Sammygol, I know of hospitals that have pink, purple, green, etc.
But when we open that new hospital (Bet Chumra) we will only have white scrubs.
Don’t worry about the stains, because all the doctors (men only, of course) will have to wear black jackets over their scrubs.
“The problem with jeans in my opinion is, that by wearing it you’re making a statement”
Correct: The starement is, “Working is less a Bizayon (disgrace) than begging.”
I will only respect those who are concerned about how our youth dresses if they are even more concerned that every Jewish teen age boy be on a path towards an honorable way of making a living.
3 geneartions ago it was: Suit = responsible breadearner. Jeans = bum
Now it is the opposite.
starwolf, I thought the hospital was going to have two separate wings, one for men and one for woman, with doctors of the appropriate gender.
Right Star,
I will wear pink, to avoid going blue.
Sammygol,
you obviously say that because you studied in some treife Medical School, where you had to study evolution, human anatomy, and all sorts of subjects not fit for a nice Jewish boy or girl.
Our new Mehadrin Medical School, at the Universitat Ya’ar Agam, will not have such subjects.
(Therefore our male doctors, nurses, and technicians will not wish to wear pink. They will not be exposed to such toeivois.)
Feif Un, yes, we will have 2 separate wings in the hospital, but until the first Mehadrin medical class graduates, we are having trouble staffing them.
Unfortunately, costs for procedures performed in our hospital are higher than the costs at other hospitals. This is because of the need for special equipment. Do you know how difficult and expensive it is to find autoclaves that can sterilize hats and sheitels? But fear not, we are “on top” of the situation.
Separate wings? What about separate buildings instead!
Haifagirl, we thought of that. However, modern Israeli hospitals have a mechanism in place. As system of double doors that cannot both be opened at the same time exists in every Israeli hospital, to separate the morgue from the wards. This way, kohanim have no problem entering the hospitals.
We think that a similar mechanism ought to suffice at Bet Chumra. Of course, we recognize that things are getting more stringent. So rather than 2 doors, we will have four doors separating the men’s wing from the women’s wing. One of the mottoes of the hospital will be “arba dlatot shel chumra.
We can economize in other ways. The shul (men’s wing) does not need a mechitza. And the “shul” on the women’s side will not need a Sefer Torah, or even chumashim. We will provide, however, a number of copies of “tzena u’re’ena”.
Okay starwolf. I think that will work. I’m still a bit uneasy. What happens if a woman needs surgery and the only doctor who can do it is a man? Will there be a mechitzah provided for him to stand behind? (Or a man who needs surgery and the only doctor is a woman.)
Ok, just for fun, someone up above asked what came before Borsalino. So here we go: The upper limit location for shechita on the trachea is a cartilage structure called shipui kova in halacha. Rashi comments that is called so because it looks like a hat! Now y’all go an pull out a Sichos Chulin and look at the pictures. If that was hat enough for Rashi, does it go with the jeans or does it go with hat and jacket to the Bais Medrash?
Oy oy oy. We are going down a dark road. Women internists, women surgeons,–who knows where this will lead. Pretty soon, someone will suggest women neurologists and women F-16 pilots!
Why, who will stay home and bake the cookies?
See where all this business with jeans leads?
Why, who will stay home and bake the cookies?
The men?
“Why, who will stay home and bake the cookies?”
The one who LIKES to bake cookies.
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