January 6th Committee Hearings

The so-called “hearings” are simply political theater. It is worthy of airtime only on Comedy Central.

“Can’t wait to hear more Trump updates from those who just can’t stop thinking about him…”

Then make sure you have your VCR set to record each episode so you can play your favorite Trumpkopf moments of insanity over and over again. I’m especially looking forward to the testimony where he apparently was hiding in the upstairs residence lav watching on TV and kvelling as the rioters were beating the Capital Police as one family member and staffer after another begged him to tell them to stand down in between text messages from Sean Hannity and the rest of the Fox news chevrah worrying about his “legacy”.

Dear Syag,

There were 138 injuries. Several concussions, burns, and broken bones. And who knows how many cases of long-term trauma. One death and four suicides. This was a singular event in the history of American Policing. A few hundred police without proper gear holding off thousands of rioters with stun guns, bear spray, metal bars, etc, for hours. Retreat and regroup was not an option. It was horrible.

n0m- i am prefacing this with the statement that it was indeed awful. It was wrong. I am not supporting what occurred.
Now my point. You speak very intelligently and confidently. I used to conflate that with being correct and accurate. I don’t believe you have your facts or story straight. I also don’t have reason to believe this hearing will be honest based on past performance. I also don’t believe that people who think as jackk thinks will ever accept anything they don’t want to believe even if undisputable facts emerge. I strongly believe I will not have that problem. Bez”H.
We’ll either find out, or we won’t.

You just completely contradicted your first post. Nice to see you’re coming around.

Why not watch if you have a TV or listen on WCBS News Radio to hear what witnesses have to say before making a judgement?
If Fox were an actual news network they would also broadcast the hearings as they are newsworthy as the Watergate hearings were.

The Committee needs a smoking gun (similar to what the Watergate Committee found) or the members of the Committee will end looking like fools. They need to find a witness who gives convincing evidence such as a recording of Trump saying “Well, how is the putsch going?” or perhaps a bunch of general and admirals testifying how Trump was sounding them out to stage a coup d’etat. A self-proclaimed “Shaman” (witchdoctor?) running around half naked in January wearing horns and carrying a broomstick is NOT sedition and hasn’t been considered treason since the middle ages (when casting spells on the king could get you burned at the stake). Unless the Democrats can come up with a way that Trump could have either recruited the military, and raised sufficient force to overcome the military, January 6 is not different that the many BLM riots (meaning the demonstrating is protected by the First amendment, and breaches of peace can be prosecuted in isolation).

I watched the entirety of the Watergate hearings. I’ll do the same with these hearings. The big difference is today there is legal marijuana.

Syag- I think yaakov doe was addressing you. I will personally value your insights and opinions if I knew you watched it, than if you relied on your favorite media outlets to filter and spin the hearing and deciding for you what clips you can hear. If we then want to be critical and check facts, etc., fine. Most of us don’t have TVs but I’m sure there’s a way to view online. I do think watching will be much better than radio since I hear it’s multimedia. If any of us miss it tonight, could we all agree not to listen to the pundits or opine either way until we see it for ourselves?

I want to hear the witnesses including the ones whose testimony was taken earlier and recorded before I come to any conclusion about who bears responsibility for the events of January 6th. I want to know who brought the gallows and who originated the idea of hanging the Vice President of the United States. I’d also like to know who planted the bombs the evening prior to the assault. I would also like to know why a Congressman from Alabama thought it necessary to wear body armor when addressing the assemblage. There is also the unanswered question of why members of the Proud Boys stocked weapons in a motel outside of DC awaiting word on when to enter DC armed.

I find it hard to believe that Trump planned on marching to the Capital and that he was watching the rioting on TV that afternoon refusing to act. So many unanswered questions that may be answered by witnesses, texts and recordings.
I’m rescheduling my Thursday night learning to listen to the hearing on radio in order to be an informed American.

er: That’s like advocating you cannot have an opinion on Hitler unless you read Mein Kampf. This Democrat garbage is no different.

There is a misunderstanding on this thread. The committee is not going to press box charges. The goal was to gather all the information and preserve it. For legal and historical reference. The success of these hearings depend solely on how impartial it is in it’s presentation. Nobody thinks Pelosi is capable of being impartial. This all rests on the confidence of Cheney. Quite a responsibility for the future of the Constitution.

Yaakov- excellent questions. I would love answers to those. And not just who planted those bombs, but why it wasn’t pursued when they had video. And I also would love to know why security was denied, then delayed when requested etc. I’m not building theories, I would just like facts.

>>>Also, why would they gather so much evidence and hear over a thousand testimonials, to just go with such a basic premise?

Because they are Looking for more excuses to harass and more information to incriminate their political opponents and sifting through it to make sure to AVOID presenting any other evidence. The January 6th committee is already guilty of presenting altered documents to the public. Does anyone think they would hesitate to do so again?

Does anyone think that if the Republicans made a similar investigation into the Democrats who supported The Steele Dossier or other completely baseless and outright fabricated attempts to remove the legally elected president of the US (Trump) it would look so different from what the January 6 commission will tell us?

I don’t watch the Republican or Democratic national conventions because I’m not interested in party line propaganda meant to whip the party faithful into a frenzy. Any important new proposals being made I’ll hear about the next day. What makes this any different?

Dear Common,

That is a great comparison. Though this individual is mentally afflicted. While the storm the Capitol crowd, were largely ignorant.

Reb E – you missed the boat there. It wasn’t about losing a supreme court judge, it was about an assassin going to a judges house to murder him and his wife and children because he didn’t like the vote he was going to make. You don’t find that to be a problem?

er – correct, I meant surveilance, not the big investigation. But I think you understood the point I was trying to make, not about the details of the dossier or the investigation into trump etc, just the simpler piece of procuring, passing along and using information that is fake, known to be fake etc. We have seen adequate evidence of phony evidence and sources, and abuse of authority of chairmen (regardless of the issues being investigated) to know that we have to be skeptical and careful what we believe. It’s really a shame and undermines a lot of things we need to rely on.

To the extent dossier info wasn’t true, this came to light. And it’s a relief the investigation was not based on the dossier. Criminal trials work the same way: put forth the evidence you have. If on the balance it doesn’t hold enough water, defendant should walk. And if the original charge was based off something egregiously wrong he also walks free even if other facts show criminality. So why not look at the evidence brought tonight and see what they got? If 1 or 2 smaller allegations turn out false, at least you’ll hear the true stuff before the pundits and our social circles spin it. Remember, it’s not just the dead leads Trump supporters will be amplifying. They’ll twist the truth too.
I don’t expect a smoking gun. Someone asked Cheney if the additional evidence shows Trump conspired, and she said she believes so. If it was smoking gun she would have answered “yes” to get more people to tune in.

So the hearings begin tonight and it will be televised unedited in full form so we can see all of it for ourselves? And hear all the questions and responses and evidence so we can draw conclusions?

not quite sure if you are being funny or condescending but I was told by someone that it was just excerpts and clips so I was trying to clarify from people who might know.

So someone who watched it just told me it is actually not full presentations of the interviews and depositions, but rather selected sections and clips with lots of narrative. And considering there is not a single soul in the room to ‘cross examine’ as is normally done in hearings I am not understanding what we are supposed to be gaining from this hearing different than what has already been expressed and leaked all year. Can someone who does not mind communicating kindly please clarify for me what will be presented? What can possibly be accomplished in regard to answers?

i was hoping for actual information, not rhetoric

@ Reb E, and lets say he did, how does that effect things 18 months later? I don’t care if Trump claims the election was stolen or the fact that you had 100 nuts running to the Capital, it is not going to make the streets safer, bring down the price of food and gas or bring peace in Ukraine.
PS it looks like is a none story in the vast majority places that had GOP primaries.

Reb Eliezer, Nero was a tzadik and a ger tzedek; Trump is an Oheiv Yisroel and an American hero.