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    Romain
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    Before 2011 israels cost of living was 50 percent lower
    Than the oecd average source the times of israel,
    The oecd basicaly is the europen countries.
    But now propert in israel is 200 percent more than the oecd average food 100 percent more expensive, transportation 50 percent and besides this salaries in israel are 30 percent lower
    Than the oecd average, day care (gan) is nit free unlike in
    Europen countries, and costs 2000 shekels per a child per a
    Month all these things equaled together equals crisis
    And acording to the times of israel the 2011 cost of living
    Protests which included 1 milion isreilis has been largely forgoten

    #2026733

    Romain, not sure whether your English is first or second or more language, but your writing is very hard to understand. If you improve your spelling skills, you can contribute to improving your own standard of living. Try using grammarly or some other tool to check what you are writing.

    #2026761
    ujm
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    Post-Covid worldwide.

    #2026763
    akuperma
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    Cost of living is not uniform in any country. Being unable to afford a nice apartment in a “good” neighborhood in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv doesn’t mean you are closed out of the entire country. Unlike golus, where rural areas and smaller cities are not realistic options from frum Jews (no Jewish schools, no shul, no mikva, limited availability of kosher food), in Eretz Yisrael there are many more housing options that don’t require living in the most expensive metropolitian areas. When you take into account the premium paid in golus for Jewish education, kosher food and housing in expensive urban areas, Eretz Yisrael starts looking much more affordable for a frum Yid.

    #2026883
    Yabia Omer
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    More and more frum Jews will be making Aliyah. Mark my words.

    #2026924
    ka1122le
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    even in E”Y we are in golus as should be obvious.

    #2027647
    Romain
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    Even in israel if you move away from jerusalem, bnei brak
    Beitar, youll find it in imposible to be froom,if you move
    To any cheaper city in the negev or north, for example
    If you want to move to afula, naharia, migdal hamek,
    Haifa, theres no mikvahas theres no shuls, no kosher resturants

    #2027810

    why don’t you organize a group of 20 families and move to such smaller city and settle there as a group?

    #2027916
    Nechomah
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    Romain – I don’t know if you’ve made a trial visit to Israel, but in Afula and Haifa there are definitely shuls and mikvaos. People have to learn how to live without restaurants on every block. There are pizza and falafel places all over Israel with decent kashrus. Please check your information before stating incorrect things as fact. I can also tell you that dati moshavim have shuls. There are many places outside of the three cities that you mentioned where people can live for less money than you stated previously. Don’t forget about Modi’in Illit, which is good for yeshivish people. Prices there are lower than other places.

    #2030406
    Romain
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    I read an article on jcn, that said that most houses in israel
    Are not propaly insulated, and in winter ireilis cant afoard
    To buy anough electricity for heaters, and isreilis find it hard
    To buy warm clothes so they were doing internatiinal funding for isreilis

    #2030494
    Gadolhadorah
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    “Haifa, theres no mikvahas theres no shuls, no kosher resturants..”
    Romain: Have you ever been to Haifa??? If not, you should find the time to visit. Its a beautiful city with multiple mikvahs and shuls and some great restaurants with good hashgacha. If you are worried about being cold, move to Eilat. If you live “up north”, it won’t be difficult for a real estate broker to find you a modern, energy efficient home or apartment. There are also several government programs available for low cost loans to upgrade the energy efficiency of older buildings. The cost of living in EY has generally tracked inflation over time in the OECD countries.

    #2030562
    Nechomah
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    Yes, there are people who unfortunately really struggle, especially in the winter, but there are many people who do not experience the problems that you report. I live in a new, modern building with my own heating run on gas and electricity. I do not find my apartment cold enough to require it. There are many old buildings in Meah Shearim and older parts of Jerusalem and probably Bnei Brak, and in those buildings there may be little heat or heat for the entire building and I’m sure those families really feel the cold. Clothing in Israel is too expensive in general. I just don’t think you can extrapolate this to “most” Israelis because I don’t think that’s right. Yes, more than half of the children in this country (say Chareidi children) live under the poverty level, but I wouldn’t say that most Israelis experience the issues you report. I know families whose parents managed to buy them apartments before the value of real estate went up, so even though they don’t have large incomes, they don’t have to pay rent or mortgage, so that is a huge savings for them. Please make sure to contribute to those wonderful tzedaka organizations as I am sure there are plenty of people who need that type of help, but, again, don’t envision that everybody is out there paying 5K a month for rent or mortgage, as it’s not really the case.

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