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December 15, 2013 12:08 pm at 12:08 pm #611560feterleibelMember
With all the fuss about the lack of suitable response to the snow, i think that the point has to be made that israeli infrastructure is generally very very poor.
The main road from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem is still only two lanes in each direction,they are finnaly thinking of expanding it, but even then it will only be three lanes – unbelievable for such a major highway connecting two international cities. the other road – the 443 – is still governed bu traffic lights, and is unsuitable for high speeds. The 38 – road to Beis shemesh – is – hold your breath – only one lane in each direction, and still does not have street lights.
The airport – opened only seven or eight years ago is already full to capacity, and they are years away from even deciding where and how to expand. while in my native england they proactively seek out solutions for such problems – i.e. they are thinking again about expanding heathrow, they insisted that glasgow and edinburgh airport be under separate management etc.. in israel they simple fail think ahead of their noses.
Ditto for the new train planned for Jerusalem Tel aviv, …
December 15, 2013 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #994485147Participantand as for the Jerusalem Light Rail:- 2 major changes are urgently required:-
1) The Light Rail must run more frequently. Every 10-12 minutes is totally out of reality, and the Light Rail is always packed to the gills.
2) Jaffa Center Stop to Jaffa Gate Stop is far too big a distance between 2 stops. They must construct a stop between these 2 stop, maybe somewhere around the end of Rehov Ben Yehudah.
December 16, 2013 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #994486ZushyParticipantI have friends who will tell you that the main purpose of the Israeli state is to frei out all yidden, and the infrastructure is oly secondary. So maybe, if it’s only secondary they are not doing so bad???
But then again maybe my friends are simply crazy????
December 16, 2013 9:25 pm at 9:25 pm #994487LevAryehMemberLet’s not forget the 90, which is the only way to places like the Dead Sea, Ein Gedi, Masada, Eilat, etc. (and can also get you all the way to Tveryah and Tsfas). It is one lane, it has no lighting most of the way, and it winds its way through dangerous curves with almost no visibility at night or in a fog.
December 16, 2013 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #994488akupermaParticipantFor a third world country that is in a permanent state of war, Israel is doing fairly well economically. The infrastructure reflects it.
December 18, 2013 9:42 am at 9:42 am #994489old manParticipant1. Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are not “international cities”. They are just cities.
2. From Tzomet Maccabim till Malcha, a distance of some 35 kilometers, Route 443 has no traffic lights. Going towards Tel Aviv, from Tzomet Maccabim, there are 5 , one of which is almost always green (Adam). Hardly “governed by traffic lights”.
3. Considering the large volume of passenger traffic,Ben Gurion airport is extraordinarily accessible and efficient, with plenty of parking. Far better than Kennedy,LaGuardia and Newark.
4. For better and worse, God provided us with a Homeland that is full of peaks and valleys, making the construction of high speed roads extremely difficult. Going only 90 km/hr. on 443 is not really a serious problem, is it?
5. I can get from Modi’in to Katzrin in the Golan, 200 km (120 miles), in two and a quarter hours, not speeding. Lousy infrastructure ? Hardly.
6. Been lately on Thirteenth avenue? On the Belt Parkway? Crosstown Manhattan? Good luck. (yes, I know you are British) So who can’t “think in front of their noses” in traffic planning?
7. Route 38 is indeed dangerous, granted. They are working on it, but please pay no attention to that.
8. A snowfall in Jerusalem like we saw last week comes about as often as a Hurricane Sandy. Ready to invest the whole bank account in preparing for it? That would be foolish.
Methinks there is more Meraglim-ness in the OP than objectivity .
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