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Has anyone here on YWN been to, going to, born in, &/or currently living in the Holy land of Israel?
Ive been there.
Yeah Iv’e been more then once. In fact I even had my Bar Mitzva there. Would recommend to every single Jew in thew world to visit. It is quite literally te land of Jews.
But nothing was i was told beforehand was enough to prepare me on my first visit to the Kosel. I’ve seen so many videos and pictures of it but that is nothing to actually being there. I felt a strong tug of emotion as you look up at the age- old stones that people have cried to for centuries…
been there 17 times
Born in the Holy Land of Eretz Yisroel, currently Southern Lebanon, ruled by the benevolent government of Lebanon (unlike the heretic government of the State [calling itself Israel] next to Lebanon – that actually includes land [i.e. Arabah, Israel] that is not inside Eretz Yisroel).
I live in EY, in Yerushalayim Ir Hakodesh.
I’ve been to Eretz Yisroel a number of times. It’s a wonderful place. It’s actually much more than that.
I lived in Israel for four years. I have been back to visit three times. I am looking forward to going again.
I was born in the U.S. but moved to E”Y shortly after getting married. We love it- you can literally feel the kedusha permeating every aspect of your life; we were just privileged to fulfill the mitzvah of shmittah by leaving our garden hefker and untended (also by buying produce that was imported from Europe and the States). The school system is far from perfect, but our children are way less materialistic and spoiled than my husband and I were growing up in the States. Yes, the medina gives us many tzoros. But without them, we would not be able to live here, or visit all the holy sites whenever we please. It’s a difficult life here- between parnossa, Arab terrorism, and the secularism that the gov keeps trying to force on us, but l’fum tzara agra. We would not trade the closeness we have achieved with Hashem by living here for anything. It’s a real shame that too many frum Jews conflate Medinat Yisrael with Eretz Yisrael…
I’ve visited three times- once on a summer program, once with family, and once with school- and am now living in E”Y for the year. I come back to the States in June.
I also live in Eretz Yisrael. I came for sem and never left! Wouldn’t move back to America but visits to family are neccessary and enjoyable.
Yoshi- is there something you specifically want to know?
halavai: I don’t believe any of the <i>nochri</> fruits and veges during Shmitta were from Europe and the USA, but rather from Jordan.
But absolutely, since our move a year ago we also wouldn’t trade it for anything, despite some of the hardships.
We try to tell our story to others back in Chul, hopefully they’ll follow these footsteps and come back home too.
kitzur_dot_net: most vegies did come from Jordan but the carrots came from Italy(at least the ones we bought). I was surprised when I saw the writing on the carrot packages.
Was there once and since then, Im desperate to go again!!! Gotta save up a few thousand first!!!
Nothing like Eretz Yisrael!!
yoshi- yea thank God I have been so fortunate. No, right now I am stuck in America and not to happy bout it, but hopefully I will be back home soon
Will, wow, I never realized that an Arab govt was more benevolent than our own Jewish govt in EY. Does this also refer to the benevolent govt of Hamas? What about the benevolent govt of Saudi Arabia which doesn’t even let Christians worship, let alone Jews? What about the benevolent Taliban govt which let the benevolent Osama bin Laden benevolently blow up the World Trade Center. The Arab world is a very benevolent place.
Pashuteh, there is NO Jewish gov’t in the Zionist State.
Unfortunately, never was there.
Please clarify what you mean by this.
We (my family) made aliyah about 1 1/3 years ago, and have never been happier. We live in the Shomron.
What do you want to know.
Live in EY & love it.
For clarification of Joseph’s comment see Kovetz Ma’amarim (Ikvisa D’mishicha) from R’ Elchanan Wasserman HY”D
Not pashut, that was written before the founding of the state, and probably before the holocaust in which Reb Elchonon ZTVKL perished, RL.
notpashut-firstly- I did not have time to “post” anything these past days so I was not able to add any comments on the “hashkafic tie” post. NO, it was not another Shlomo z’l weekend although I wish I could daven kabollas shabbos every week with his nussach.
Secondly,this whole ridiculous argument about the State and government of Israel is getting rather stale. (will hill and joseph seem to be the main inerlocutors here, with assists from bogen and others)
I did learn “ikvesu demeshecha”, although it was a long time ago. Similarly , I learned a big part of “Vajoel moshe” (to assure joseph)but then, I have also learned Rav Teichtal’s sefer (Eim habonim semeicha) and I have learned extensive passages from Rav Kook’s seforim.I have also read and learned extensive writigns from many other Geedolim on this matter.
On a personal level, I have accepted Rav kook’s shittah and I think that events and historical developments have proven him right.
You , and others, are welcome to continue to quote whatever you want from the past, but the future and history will prove (or- disprove) who was right.
On different occasions, I have clashed with some of the “posters” on this issue. I find it very sterile discussion because:
1) most of the people commenting on this live in the US and have no input into Israeli lives
2) Many of them may very well be hypocritical because they benefit from the State-either with money or with security
3)The discussion has no way to be proven except by seeing how it develops.
So- good luck,members, on your arguments!
Pashuteh,
I’m well aware of that. I guess you haven’t read it.
Sorry Charlie; its still just as relevant as the day he wrote his holy words.
rabbiofberlin,
Good to hear from you once again.
Once again I couldn’t disagree with you more but I feel bad hijacking another thread so if you want to continue this sterile (on that we agree) machlokes l’shem shomayim why don’t we step outside.
The thread, that is 🙂
BS”D
I think I have visited E”Y 14 times, the most recent time being 3 years ago. Next trip is IY”H 25 Teves and I am not buying a return ticket.
Please. That thread was closed for a reason. Please don’t start that topic here.
Thank you for your understanding.
we’re gonna start setermining people’s ages by the amount of times they’ve been to israel, so watch out! 🙂
teenager: you’ve really been there 17 times?! do you go once a year or something? or are you really not a teenager 🙂
I’ve been there once when I was about 10 and then went again on a Birthright Trip!
i’ve been there twice & going in feb. for midwinter break!!! best place to visit ever!!!
asdfghjkl: are you a teenager? here i am, thinking that youre some married woman from ireland who likes to put 3,000 exclamation marks at the end of each phrase….lol.
ive BH been there 3 times, and my 4th is coming up in June iyH. my sister lives there now and my brother is learning there.
we actually had a special class last year called yediat h’aretz–all about Eretz Yisrael and hilchos Shemittah and Zionism….anything about E’Y that you can imagine. really opened my eyes and my heart is seriously just waiting to board the plane!!!
by maydel
high schools arn’t the only places that give midwinter break!!! but nice try!!!
asdfgh…
wow your name is a pain to write over! anyway, high schools aren’t the only places that give mid-winter breaks, but i thought only high school (and sem) girls were obsessed with !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brooklyn19
ya got that wrong pal!!!! thnx for noticing my signature thing with all the!!!!!!
couldn’t miss it if i were blind!
!!!!! was gonna be my next argument. maybe its just the irish culture, but i wouldnt know lol.
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