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  • #1679417
    Fake Yeshiva Bachur
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    Should parents allow their kids to watch regular sports, such as baseball and basketball, assuming that there’s no cheerleaders or commercials? Kids are in yeshiva the whole day and need a healthy outlet to have fun and relax from a long day. Or maybe they shouldn’t, as it might get in the way of their learning?

    #1679797
    Joseph
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    Watching professional sports isn’t healthy. It is bittul zman, And there’s nothing productive about it.

    #1679855
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    This is a totally theoretical question, right?

    #1679938
    anonymous Jew
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    Joseph, as opposed to the time you spend trolling the internet

    #1679961
    Joseph
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    You mean being mekarev Yidden to true Torah Yiddishkeit.

    #1680047
    shnitzle my soul
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    i go for sports

    #1680048
    shnitzle my soul
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    hello

    #1680053
    shnitzle my soul
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    this isnt working

    #1680063
    👑RebYidd23
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    Watching sports is stupid. It’s like watching someone read a book.

    #1680057
    shnitzle my soul
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    ignore all above comments by me

    #1680068
    shnitzle my soul
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    why does each comment take 5 minutes to show up

    #1680235
    1
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    Better than a lot of things that people do

    #1680220
    Takes2-2tango
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    Why watch when u can play?

    #1680265
    frumnotyeshivish
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    why play when you can watch? Most people need hobbies to stay sane. Watching sports is not the worst potential hobby.

    #1680302
    knaidlach
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    many children, teens are in yeshiva all day and have no interest in watching sports. their interest is in more toichen’dige things.

    #1680303
    👑RebYidd23
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    Playing sports is healthy.

    #1680274
    akuperma
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    1. Should the question be “is entertainment okay?”. Perhaps is having “fun” okay? Are you arguing the relative merits of watching a baseball game versus learning gemara, or perhaps as opposed to going to a concert, or perhaps compared to reading a book (as opposed to learning a sefer).

    2. Certain sports have specific halachic issues (swiming and “beach volleyball” come to mind very easily). While the ancient Roman “sports” were clearly avoadah zarah (yes, gladiators were a human sacrifice – not an athletic contest), one might find certain aspects of modern sports questionable as well (boxing, dog fighting, etc.).

    3. If a sport is permissable to participate in, is it also permissable to watch?

    #1680332
    Joseph
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    Don’t forget the lowlifes that play these professional sports.

    #1680296
    Frumshmurda718
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    Absolutely not. If you let them watch sports, their role models will not be gedolim, but rather they will be the sports players and they will want to look like them, dress like them, talk like them, etc. Watching sports is a waste of time, and going with their stadiums and seeing how these fools act like , with their cursing, yelling, pritzusdik women and shirtless men, crazy alcoholics, not tzinus ads, hedonistic gluttons, violence, השם ירחם. And to go there with a kipa & tzitzis, oy what a חילול השם! Our ancestors fought against such things during the times of Antiochus HaRasha, as the Greeks used sports to lure Jews into their trap. The yavonim (Greeks) even made a sports stadium right next to the Beis Hamikdosh! And here we are , 2000 years later , encouraging the same thing our ancestors put their lives on the line for. We might have won then, but the Greeks won in the long run. Keep your child away from sports like it’s cocaine!

    #1680391
    Avi K
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    WATCH: Jewish Metaphysics of Baseball by Rosh Hayeshiva of Ohr Somayach, Rav Nota Schiller Shlit”a,

    Yankee Stadium has glatt kosher stands and Mincha or Maariv (depending on whether it is a day or night game) during the Seventh Inning Stretch. Weekday soccer in israel has Maariv during the break. Apparently some people think it’s permitted. I don’t know if it is considered a sport but many gedolim played chess as bachurim. One future gadol, upon beating his opponent (also a future gadol) commented that he needed to know that he can’t always win.

    #1680386
    Gadolhadorah
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    frumshmurda718;

    Yasher koach…..by far the best troll of the day and probably the week…..a gutten shabbos

    #1680566
    Habochur
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    I think a better question is Whats a better outlet for a bachur following sports or smoking

    #1680567

    you mean on television? you have a television in your house? get rid of that immediately

    sports today is not sports in 1947, the commercials around it are absolute filth, the athletes are generally undignified, they boast, they brag. There are exceptions but you see so much bad middos in sports. and this obsession with winning is really unhealthy. there have to be other diversions available to your kids, particularity one where they are not passively watching

    #1680694
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    The OP posed limits such as no cheerleaders/commercials………………….
    I would not want my kids at professional sports venues where the crowds are out of hand, drinking beer, vulgar language, etc.

    That said, I take my grandchildren (as I did not children) to attend local college baseball games as treats during Chol HaMoed Pesach. There is no alcohol sold, the crowd is a family type. The players are scholar athletes who must maintain grades to play/stay on the teams (Note I did not include footballi or basketball which attract a lower strata of fans and players).

    An afternoon in the fresh air and sunshine at the ballpark is worthwhile and healthy. Helps eliminate Vitamin D deficiency,

    #1680757
    👑RebYidd23
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    Habochur, nice false dilemma. Let the bachurim lift weights and read classic literature for an outlet.

    #1681315
    zahavasdad
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    Habochur, nice false dilemma. Let the bachurim lift weights and read classic literature for an outlet.

    Another thread many stated that JRR Tolkein was not accpetable

    #1681335
    MrSarahLevine613
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    Although i agree with RebYidd that this is a “false dilemma” — if i were to take the question seriously, i believe the answer to these things is what are you replacing it (e.g. sports) with. Even though i think that people here when they say “bittul zman/bittul torah” are saying it “tounge in cheek” (maybe) — when you say it to a kid or adult — they dont often say — right — what was i thinking — back to the beis medrash. Either you believe in leisure time or you dont. If someone enjoys painting (even if the are not a good artist) is better/worse than someone who enjoys watching sports? Is Jazz worse than classical? Maybe if its not assur — its permitted. (I am aware of the Ramban on kedoshim tehyu). Therse are rhetorical questions for the most part.

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