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June 22, 2023 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #2202477ehrlichkeitParticipant
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I just found out that the wife of the CEO Ash is the great-great-grandaughter of Isidor Strauss, the co-owner of Macy’s , who was famous for droning in the Titanic disaster with his wife. Could there be a connection?June 23, 2023 1:01 am at 1:01 am #2202578commonsaychelParticipantI did not know drones were invented yet.
June 23, 2023 1:01 am at 1:01 am #2202579RedlegParticipantY0u just posted the connection.
June 23, 2023 6:43 am at 6:43 am #2202580RedlegParticipantP.S. When Sam Klein wakes up, I’m sure he could do 500 words on it,
June 23, 2023 6:43 am at 6:43 am #2202581yungermanSParticipantNothing that happens in the world just happens by coincidence but actually everything has a direct wake up call message directly from Hashem for klal yisroel. Sometimes these messages are tragic and shocking and other times their happy depending on what klal yisroel needs to be waken up to.
Ask Sam Klein what the shocking relation is between this drowning and the titanic sinking happening……
May we all accept Hashems wake up call for serious teshuva and Achdus together ASAP so that Hashem can send Mashiach already bkarov.
June 23, 2023 8:05 am at 8:05 am #2202596☕️coffee addictParticipantCommonsaychel,
It wasn’t but I guess the guy talked a lot on the titanic
The definition of drone (before drones were invented) is to speak tediously in a low monotonic sound
June 23, 2023 8:06 am at 8:06 am #2202599danielaParticipantIs she Jewish? the NYT posted a link to their 1986 archives, about the marriage of Wendy Weil and Stockton Rush. Her mother’s family is not clarified much, it says “The bride is a granddaughter of Mrs. Arthur B. Griffin Jr. of Stuart, Fla” (not Mr & Mrs XYZ).
Composite pressure vessels are tricky and their reuse is even more so. Very sad that people lost their life because of arrogant incompetence and greed.
June 23, 2023 9:13 am at 9:13 am #2202646commonsaychelParticipant@CA, yes rich people have a tendency to drone on and on.
June 23, 2023 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #2202662Yserbius123ParticipantThe liberals are very upset that so much focus is put on the Titan accident rather than the refugee boat that capsized in the Mediterranean. I hate to say it, but I kind of agree. What can we learn from a boat full of poor and desperate people trying to get to a better life sinking and drowning?
June 23, 2023 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #2202683SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThe CEO of the company that produced the Titan submarine said that he did NOT want to hire “50 year old white men” to design his submarine.
Instead, he insisted on only hiring Politically Correct minorities (women, gays, lesbians, Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims) to design the Titan submarine.
June 23, 2023 3:18 pm at 3:18 pm #2202685akupermaParticipantWhen people do stupid things, it often comes back to haunt them.
June 23, 2023 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #2202712anonymous JewParticipantI don’t know which is worse, making fun of the deaths or the egotism thinking how does it affect the Jews.
June 23, 2023 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #2202733Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipanthis brother Nathan built Lakewood Hotel because, I think, his visiting relatives, as Jews, had hard time finding hotel rooms.
June 23, 2023 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #2202734Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantR Avigdor Miller teaches that we should learn lessons that are far from us, unless yuo want disasters closer to you.
The main lesson here is to not look for thrills. Lo b’ shamaim hi, and not on the floor of the ocen.
June 25, 2023 9:06 am at 9:06 am #2202871simcha613ParticipantThe lesson is not to ignore safety protocols.
June 25, 2023 10:27 am at 10:27 am #2202911אדירבמלוכהParticipantThis is a good example of what David Luke termed ‘Randomania’.
What you believe to be a coincidence is in actuality the cause of the connection itself.
What likely actually happened is the following: Wendy Rush was obsessed in the first place with the Titanic precisely because her great-grandparents had died on it; she gets involved in research regarding the Titanic (she’s the director of communications of OceanGate after all!); through her familial interest in the Titanic she meets Stockton Rush, who has had a shared obsession with aviation and aquatics since he was a child, as well as deep sea exploration for a long time (sure enough, the two of them were licensed pilots as teenagers before meeting each other); their shared obsession with the Titanic eventually leads to them creating a company which does dangerous exploration to the Titanic’s wreckage, leading to the tragedy that occurs.
In other words, it’s not a coincidence that Strauss’ descendant’s husband died in a tragedy related to the Titanic; rather, it’s because she was Strauss’ descendant that she had a husband who died in a tragedy related to the Titanic.June 25, 2023 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #2202970AviraDeArahParticipantChazal: everything that happens in the world os because of Jews, and they are supposed to learn a lesson from it.
Anonymous: that’s egotistic.
Who are we going to listen to?
Anyways, my take on the issue is that both the crew of the titanic and the submersible travelling to visit it shared the same problem. The captain of the titanic in his gaavah threw away lifeboats and security devices because he thought his ship was unsinkable. He had the arrogance to tell Hashem what will be, and this led to the deaths of 1,500 people.
Similarly, it was reported that the pilot of the submersible disregarded safety protocols.
It’s a lesson in humility; never to be cavalier, arrogant and reckless.
June 25, 2023 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #2202975Menachem ShmeiParticipant>>>I don’t know which is worse
Making fun is worse. It’s not nice to make fun of death.
On the other hand, looking at everything through the lenses of how it affects Yidden is a very good thing, as Avira wrote.
I’ll add to Avira that not only is everything that HAPPENS in the world for the Yidden, but the very existence of the world is only for the Yidden.
As Rashi writes on the first posuk:
בראשית – בשביל ישראל ובשביל התורה שנקראו ראשיתJune 25, 2023 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #2202982n0mesorahParticipantWait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is SQUARE ROOT a new name for an old timer?
June 25, 2023 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm #2203003SQUARE_ROOTParticipantN0mesorah: I do not understand your question.
Are you asking how old I am?
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