Is “shushing” the “shusher” nekama?

Its only considered retaliation if you preface your shush with an even louder “Gut Shabbos Malkie” and then wishing the shusher a refuah shelamah for her “issues”.

It’s an actual halacha: when you shush someone in shul, you are being mevazeh someone b’rabim.

What do you do about the guy who answers his phone in shul during minyan?

For the past year or two, there is a constant series of video ads here on YWN with the header “Stop the Talking in Shul”. No question that the pervasive chattering is a big problem and getting worse. Its also been noted here sarcastically that the Conservative shuls seem to do a better job of maintaining a quiet and respectful atmosphere then the frum shuls. Thus, there is clearly a need for shushers, although having the gabbai klop on his shtender may sometimes have more effect than some Balabusta doing a loud shush from the ezrash nashim.

1 is spouting narishkeit. “Screaming” at someone for talking in shul during certain parts of the davening is the Halocha. Straight out of the Shulchan Aruch. And many Conservative Jews go to shul every day; most go every Shabbos. It’s not Reform.

Almost as bad as the talking that goes on in shul is the disrespectful shmoozing that goes on during chupas.

Why is it that some are groping for haalachic reasons why schmoozing is “ok” and “shushing” is nekama. Putting halacha aside (figuratively of course), there are situations in daily secular life where you wouldn’t engage in schmoozing during certain public events……common sense alone dictates not to schmooze during davening, kariyas hatorah, kiddushin or the Rav’s darasha……of lesser concern is not to disrupt the guy sharing his tasting notes on the new single malt Scotch being poured at the kiddush club

“Is “shushing” the “shusher” nekama?”

Nekama or not, it is infantile.

1: You are entirely correct that the wasted time, inaction, kvetching, uncertainty or slow-motion movements on the bimah make the tzibur restless and invite the schmoozing and shushing. Its probably unrealistic to expect the davening, kariyah, mi sheberachs, derasha etc. to move along like clockwork, permanently ban any shaliach tzibur who thinks he is Moshe Koussevitzky and for the rav to get directly to the point of his dvar torah but certainly, some acceleration in the current pace of the davening would reduce (albeit not eliminate) the schmoozing and shushing. I was at one shul where after the chazaras hashatz and while the gabboim were getting the sefer on the bimah after pesicha, the Rav got up, wished everyone a gutten shabbos, asked everyone to wish the same to those sitting nearby and allowed about 2-3 minutes for everyone to complete their “critical communications” before putting their mouths into “silent mode” until after davening.

Vibisheal talk is an established institution in the ladies section and is therefore a minhug that should never be shushed except during shofer or migilah

At one of the Thursday evening Shiurim by Rav Avigdor Miller, Z”L, a question was sent up from the olam, “How do I stop my neighbor from talking in Shul?” Rav Miller’s answer? “Be quiet yourself.”

The worst kind are the insincere shushers. Totally fake “NU!!”‘s

Copypasta but good copypasta:
Many people are aware that Rav Yom Tov Lippmnn Heller zt”l the Rav of Cracow and the author of the Tosfos Yom Tov composed a special prayer, a mi sh’bayrach, for those who refrain from talking during Davening. Unfortunately, not all of us have reached this ideal yet, which is why the Tefilah of the Tosfos Yom Tov was necessary.
The Shulchan Aruch (OC 124:7) discusses the terrible Aveira of talking during Shmoneh Esreh. Indeed, it is the only place in Shulchan Aruch where Rav Karo uses the expression, “ v’gadol avono minso — his sin is too great to carry.” It would seem that Rav Karo employed the language used by Rabbeinu Yona in his Igeres HaTeshuvah ( section 6). The Mishna Bururah (124:27) cites the Eliyahu Rabbah that a number of shuls ended up being destroyed on account of this violation.
The Tefilah of the Tosfos Yom Tov was composed during the Chmelnieki Massacres 1648-1649 (Gzeiras Tach v’tat) where some 300,000 Jews were murdered by Cossacks under his leadership. The Chida explains that it was revealed to the Tosfos Yom Tov from Heaven that the talking was the cause of the terrible tragedy. We still recite the special Mishebayrach to this day in many communities throughout the world.

Re: mitzvos lav le’henos nitnu……
Bameh devorim amurim, if the shusher means it k’shem mitzvah. However, If he shushes for his own benefit, there’s a svoroh to teineh that he can enjoy hanuh’eh bli pikpuk.
Because in such a case, lichoireh mei nafkuh minah between shushing and sushi’ng. L’aniyas daati both can be enjoyed even bo -byom l’chulei almah… no?

And aveiros lehenos nitnu?
Obviously not, and it does not need to be said by the chachamim.