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April 12, 2013 3:19 am at 3:19 am #608965popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Is it tznius to read books written by female authors? How is it different from kol isha?
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April 12, 2013 3:24 am at 3:24 am #947078BYbychoiceMemberyes it is perectly tznius, since when cant women speak what they think? is a womens thoughts so tameh that men cant know what they are now? i do beleive the last time i checked that megilas eshter was written by eshter and mordechai
April 12, 2013 3:24 am at 3:24 am #947079147ParticipantI read Megillas Ruth & Esther, although I don’t know if they were authored by Ruth & Esther respectively?
But many of us also read books authored by Rebbetzen Esther Jungreis which are very fine books.
April 12, 2013 3:26 am at 3:26 am #947080VogueMemberHow is it different from Jewish companies who don’t hire women? Its the same concept, and all the above are totally tznius.
April 12, 2013 3:31 am at 3:31 am #947081playtimeMemberSo anyhow, I was walking down the street in Jerusalem in a Sefardi Israeli neighborhood, and I hear music.
I thought it was Martina Mcbride or Katy Perry, which is extremely odd to hear in that neighborhood.
So I listened carefully for a few seconds, and it turned out to be Meydad Tasa.
So I was thinking, if a boy sounds like a women, is it Assur?
April 12, 2013 3:32 am at 3:32 am #947082OneOfManyParticipantonly if you cover your eyes
April 12, 2013 3:39 am at 3:39 am #947083SaysMeMemberIs it tznius to read posts written by female posters? How is it different from kol isha?
April 12, 2013 3:44 am at 3:44 am #947084BYbychoiceMemberwell lets see,a boy sounding like a woman where have i heard that before…..oh i know ybc,maimi boys, basically the places that kick the boys out when they start to get deeper voices and cant sing high like women,im a female and i dont even listen to these kinds of groups sing cause i know they are imitating women, they get the voices of women without doing anything wrong,but is that right?
April 12, 2013 3:50 am at 3:50 am #947085OneOfManyParticipantAudio books are okay if they are read in a male voice, but it’s better to be machmir and cover your eyes as well.
April 12, 2013 4:01 am at 4:01 am #947086Torah613TorahParticipantIs it tznius to read posts by female members of the CR?
April 12, 2013 4:05 am at 4:05 am #947087BYbychoiceMemberis it tznius to read posts by male posters in the cr? afterall, it may lead to a female replying to them chas vechalila!!!!
April 12, 2013 5:06 pm at 5:06 pm #947088sam4321ParticipantIs it permissible to learn the halachos of women as is the case in the Magen Avraham OC 263:12(Prisha/Drisha quotes his mother or wife for halacha of candle lighting)?
April 12, 2013 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm #947089Sam2ParticipantSam4: Prisha/Drisha also is the one who says it’s Muttar for women to learn on their own. He says in his Hakdama that his mother was one of his main Rebbeim, I believe.
Until the 1950s or so, etiquette dictated that books written by women and men should be on different bookshelves unless they are directly adjacent to a book written by the author’s spouse.
April 12, 2013 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm #947090apushatayidParticipantHmmmmm…… I hope I wasnt nichshol the whole shul at my shabbos bar mitzvah when I lained shiras devorah.
April 12, 2013 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #947091popa_bar_abbaParticipantPrisha/Drisha also is the one who says it’s Muttar for women to learn on their own.
So is there more of an inyan for women to learn the prisha and drisha over other Torah?
(I once helped a female then-“acquaintance” read a drisha for a report she was writing, but I didn’t have daas for this inyan.)
April 12, 2013 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #947092sam4321ParticipantSam2: It is interesting to note that in gemarah shabbas 111 the Tosfos on the bottom about sechitah brings the Ri ( 111b at the end )who said he heard from the women about the mesorah of Rabbeinu Tam.
April 12, 2013 5:49 pm at 5:49 pm #947093popa_bar_abbaParticipantHmmmmm…… I hope I wasnt nichshol the whole shul at my shabbos bar mitzvah when I lained shiras devorah.
You think you’re Wolf or something?
April 14, 2013 3:51 am at 3:51 am #947094oomisParticipantSeriously, Popa???? Is next Purim coming early?
April 14, 2013 4:09 am at 4:09 am #947095popa_bar_abbaParticipantSeriously, Popa???? Is next Purim coming early?
It’s always purim in the CR.
April 14, 2013 6:12 am at 6:12 am #947096haifagirlParticipantI’m not sure, but I think reading books by women could lead to mixed dancing.
April 14, 2013 6:47 am at 6:47 am #947097EnderParticipantI’m hereby nominating PBA for Troll of the year award.
April 14, 2013 7:29 am at 7:29 am #947098playtimeMemberyeah, i also dance when i read/!?
April 14, 2013 8:27 am at 8:27 am #947099no longer need seminaryMemberYOU ARE ALL INSANE! there is no halacha saying any of the above. isnt judaism hard enough without looking for ways to make it harder?
and by the way popa-bar-abba, im female, so dont read this…..
April 14, 2013 11:20 am at 11:20 am #947100mobicoParticipantWhy Popa asked this now is obvious; it has nothing to do with Purim. A book written by a woman cannot be called a Sefer – it is a Sefirah. And that is what we are doing during this period.
April 14, 2013 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm #947101The Kanoi Next DoorMemberIt is OK to read books written by somebody who is not male only if all the characters are male, and even then the characters may only discuss things pertaining to fellow males. If the book so much as contains the pronoun “she” (shudder, shudder) it must be burnt.
YM613:
“since when cant women speak what they think? is a womens thoughts so tameh that men cant know what they are now?”
Of course. Don’t you know that the most basic tenet of Ultra-Orthodoxy is that women are inferior beings who must be completely controlled by men, lest they think for themselves? And that the reason we separate the genders is so that the men are not tainted by the impurity of lesser beings I won’t even deign to mention?
Come on, you have to start reading more blogs.
April 15, 2013 4:04 am at 4:04 am #947102Sam2ParticipantSam4: The Sh’arim Metzuyanim B’Halachah on the Kitzur brings down a list of such Mekoros. I think he also quotes a Bach and another Rishon or two, but I don’t precisely remember.
April 15, 2013 11:17 am at 11:17 am #947103TheGoqParticipantNow i cant read Louisa May Alcott, George Eliot, or Jane Austen? feh on that.
April 16, 2013 2:05 am at 2:05 am #947104N.GMemberIt’s not forbidden to talk to a female. SO why can’t u read a book that a female wrote????
April 16, 2013 2:13 am at 2:13 am #947105popa_bar_abbaParticipantIt’s not forbidden to talk to a female. SO why can’t u read a book that a female wrote????
Well, is it more like talking or more like singing?
April 16, 2013 4:28 am at 4:28 am #947106☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWell, is it more like talking or more like singing?
That’s a major ?????. Is ??? ??? a ??? in the ???? Then it’s ?????? ????. But ???? it’s a ??? in the ???, then it’s ?????? ????.
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April 16, 2013 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #947108apushatayidParticipantThe bigger question is, why would you want to?
April 16, 2013 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #947109rabbi wanabeMemberAyin Ramban parshas shmini and vayetzei where he says that women are so tumeh that you shouldn’t even walk on the dirt they walked on.vihamevin yavin.
April 17, 2013 6:50 am at 6:50 am #947110interjectionParticipantRabbi wannabe what’s the source? I wanna look it up
April 17, 2013 11:26 pm at 11:26 pm #947112yaff80ParticipantInterjection:
See Ramban in Vayetzei on the parsha of Rachel sitting on the t’rafim belonging to Lavan and Lavan came in to search for them.
The Ramban is mindboggling but if I recall correctly, he states that it doesnt apply nowadays.
April 18, 2013 3:52 pm at 3:52 pm #947113yitzchokmParticipantN.G
No, it’s not mutter for males to talk to females just to shmooze
April 18, 2013 4:25 pm at 4:25 pm #947114RavHamachshirMemberIt's not forbidden to talk to a female. SO why can't u read a book that a female wrote????
Well, is it more like talking or more like singing?what the heter to speak? Ayein the gemorah in kedushin whre it is clearly discussing speaking by “kol beisha erva”
April 18, 2013 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #947115RavHamachshirMembersee previous post.
Ayein noseh keilim on shulchan aruch who seem to learn that it is singing. Therefore above post was a joke 😉
April 18, 2013 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #947116oomisParticipantMobico 🙂
April 18, 2013 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #947117AriellahParticipantno it’s an aveirah to listen to music song by a girl or to read a book written by a girl.
April 18, 2013 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #947118aznyParticipantits a very simple shailah–since anything women do is asur,we should be machmir as if it’s avodah zarah, and since any avodah zarah by a jew is omayd l’serafah ( must be burned), and we paskin like R’ Shimon that O’mayd L’serafah is k’eluy saref ( it’s as if it’s already burned) so therefore anything a women writes is already like its burned– so therefore you can read it since its halachiclly non-existent.
April 18, 2013 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #947119twistedParticipantWhen printing was new and type (until fairly recently) was hand set, numerous sefarim were type set by women and girls (oi vey) as a cottage industry. Attention to detail and knowledge of the text (gulp, cough, ahem) made them naturals at it. And when life expectancy was 30 to 50, no one noticed the lead poisoning factor.
April 18, 2013 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm #947120WIYMemberinterjection
(You dont have to like it but) the kabbalah sefarim say that the tumah on a woman who is a niddah is extremely powerful. This is the way Hashem made it. It probably has something to do with Chavas aveira.
April 19, 2013 2:27 am at 2:27 am #947121AriellahParticipantazny- r u legit bc i didn’t know that halacha b4
Ariellah, this is a warning. You need to cut out the text speak on this site.
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April 19, 2013 2:52 am at 2:52 am #947122charliehallParticipant“the kabbalah sefarim say that the tumah on a woman who is a niddah is extremely powerful”
You don’t need kabbalah. It is explicit in the Torah. It isn’t as strong as corpse tumah, though, which we all have today.
April 19, 2013 3:01 pm at 3:01 pm #947123popa_bar_abbaParticipantYou don’t need kabbalah. It is explicit in the Torah. It isn’t as strong as corpse tumah, though, which we all have today.
+1
April 19, 2013 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #947124WIYMemberCharlie and popa
I was referring to the Ramban and the mystical and hidden aspects of Tumah. Not just the basic laws of assur mutar.
April 19, 2013 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #947125computerbagelsParticipantI always make sure that my GPS is set to a male voice 😉
April 19, 2013 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #947126🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipantcomputerbagels- In Germany GPSs use male voices because men there didn’t like taking directions from a woman… no kidding. You can look it up.
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