Is Israel part of galus?

CA, {through the way I understood your question}
In regard to your question, I feel that it is true that there are dangers wherever you are (חו״ל and א״י).
However, I do believe that ה׳ wants us to be in א״י. Therefore through the lense of yidishkiet, it should be better to live in א״י.
As for the utopia thing, let me give you an example.
Picture this scenario:
A man is in his high 30s and still isn’t married. He is waiting and waiting and still can’t seem to find a Shidduch. After a while, he finally finds the right girl that he has been waiting for all these years.
As the wedding is approaching, the hall calls them up to tell them that they had to cancel on them—-they are devastated and look for another hall. More and more problems keep them from getting married.
While they just can’t wait anymore, they suddenly find an opening in a hall and grab it.
This hall happens to have some issues ( ie. food isn’t as good, band isn’t as geshmak etc…).
Do you think that while they are relieved to have saved their wedding day they will start complaining about the inconveniences? No. They are so happy to finally have a place and have the ability to get married.

While you may be correct that at the moment א״י isn’t a utopian society, because of א״יs religious value found in the תורה, both שבכתב and שבעל פה, the people who have a deep love א״י and deeply wish to be מקיים the מצוה, will ignore these inconveniences ( whether it be about the politics or dangers).
What may look to you as a massive downside will not look as bad to them at all.

Also, I believe that ה׳ protects those who live in Israel, as if it weren’t for ה׳, the state would’ve never been able to be established. The ניסים you hear about all the time, and the constant נס that no other of all the nations that surround Israel have destroyed it seems to make that apparent to me.

Let me know what you think

The Zionist State isn’t a Jewish state.

Uknowwhatimsayin, you apparently are new here so I will repost my proof the the Three Oaths are a halachic non-starter.

1. The pasukim cited refer the the kelei hamikdash, not the people.
2. They are aggadata. Aggadata cannot be understood literally (Rambam, Intro. to Perek Chelek).
3. They are not brought down in any of the codes.
4. According to Rav Chaim Vital they were only for 1,000 years (Intro. to Sefer Etz Chaim 8).
5. According to Rav Meir Simcha the San Remo conference repealed them as the other nations agreed to establish a Jewish state in what was called the province of Palestine (which, BTW, included what is now Jordan).
6. According to Rav Soloveitchik (Kol Dodi Dofek) Hashem has called.
7. The other nations violated their oath not to persecute us too much on several occasions (Crusades, Chmelnitsky massacres, pogroms, Petlura massacres, Holocaust). Thus, the deal is off (Sotah 10a with Rashi d”h huchal shevuato shel Avimelech and Shulchan Aruch YD 236,6).

Avi k,
Thanks for the list! Good stuff!

CA,
Isnt there is a difference between a מצוה and a חיוב.
While there may be a מצוה if ישוב הארץ, it doesn’t make it a chiyuv.
What I was saying is that because it’s brought down as a מצוה by the רמב״ן and is certainly of religious value according to the רמב״ם I would assume that is ideally what ה׳ would want someone to do. (ה׳ wants people to do the מצות….)
(If it’s a proper עשה and a person CAN do it and they choose not to —-may fall under the category of ביטול עשה).
(There are plenty of people that can’t live in א״י for many reasons ie. financially….)

CA, we do not pasken from a maaseh rav. You do not know why they left. Rambam gives four heterim (HIlchot Melachim 4:9). As for the gedolim who never lived here, they have a different cheshbon. because of their communal duties.

Uknowwhatimsayin, you are correct but a person must also ask if he really needs to maintain a high life-style. I heard of someone who went back (decades ago) because at the time Israel did not have cream cheese! In addition one must take into consideration the lower costs here, particularly in education.

“As for the gedolim who never lived here, they have a different cheshbon. because of their communal duties.”

Those Gedolim never told their kehilos and adherents to move to Eretz Yisroel.

Manitou: That’s one out of hundreds or thousands over 2,000 years.