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Are the sometimes-eligible, scanned pdf’s on HebrewBooks more holy to learn from than the texts on sefaria? Is learning from an actual sefer holier than both?
Love it!
Though not as much as I love Sefaria and Hebrew books
both are quite holyWhat about Otzar Hachochma or Bar-Illan?
NCB:
Comparing apples and oranges. I have used both. No similarity.
HB allows for download. Then the sefer is on my hard drive. I can print out what I need, and always have access to it. The pdf format is quite user friendly.
Sefaria is a memory heavy website, and won’t open on many devices. Okay on my desktop, not on my phone or tablet (even though permitted by my filter). The text is better for copy and paste into other documents, less convenient in the HB pdf format.
Depends on your needs.
The Torah Temimo’s view is that the rule of placing seforim on each other only applies to parchment. The holiness of printed seforim is all the same.
Laskern,
The ruling permitting placing sefarim on each other is from the Aruch HaShulchan. Torah Temimah’s father.
Laskern,
You are misquoting. The Torah Temima’s father. the Aruch HaShaShulchan rules that printed books may be placed on each other.
I think, once it is scaned to disk and printed from there , they are all the same.
“It might be a just a little bit less holy than using www. though.”
and there I thought the beta version is holier
TLIK, Nev.
“Sefaria is a memory heavy website”Not if you download in entirely, I downloaded all onto my SD card. Its MUCH less memory than Heb books will ever have as its digital text. I takes up a gb plus and you have off-line access to T’nach, Halachah, (rambam, shu”a and most nosei kelim) Shas and many others.
The features are also, no way even comparable, you click on the text (anywhere in Tanach, Shas, Shu”a) and you have the meforshim/midrashim…M”M, etc on the side.
Perhaps try to updating it.
In any case, its apples and oranges…
Can anybody help me and explain to me.
Is Sefaria kosher to use?
After all it seems to be run by non-religious people who probably one shouldn’t rely on for mesorah appropriate translations etc.
Also I’ve been told that they sometimes use Christian sources for translations.
Please all, It seems like a pretty good site, so I’d love to download from them but without any guilt or misgivings. Thanks all.“Is Sefaria kosher to use?”
without question, yes
Anyone can participate, and I think it’s not run by frum people. I don’t know why there shouldn’t at least be a question.
Is the concern with Sefaria’s translation or also with the original Hebrew text?
Why do non-religious people have an interest in participating or owning this?
The seforim are seforim on sefaria but there’s a lot of added material like essays and translations that come from who-knows-where. I’ve seen some Open Orthodox authors. The first thing that came to mind was that it would be like learning in the JTS library–you can pick up a gemara, but who knows what else is around you. That being said, the interface much more up to date, but you can’t easily download and the selection is much smaller.
I thought sefaria was owned by reform Jews?
I don’t see any problem using Sefaria. The first seforim ever printed was printed by non-jews. I also don’t see the comparison between Sefaria and Hebrew books. Hebrew books are specific seforim which are scanned. If you have to find a certain passage in a sefer Hebrew books is good, but you often have to scroll through many pages until you find the page you are looking for. Sefaria on the hand is unformatted but its major accomplishment is its cross-references You can scroll any posuk or gemara and find not only meforshim connected to that posuk, but any place that posuk or gemara is mentioned in many seforim.
When I was learning In Torah Vodaath I asked Harav Belsky Zatz”l about using Jastrow, he told me “if you had a Greek word you don’t understand you could ask a greek person. You can use Jastrow.”There is a lot more details and information in Wikipedia (and at the links quoted there.) It says much of the Hebrew texts come from other sources such as “on your way” (which is frum). Some translations come from Urim Publishers (also frum) and the Talmud translations come from Rav Steinsaltz. The site itself is open source though and it seems anyone can contribute. I would think use it and proceed with caution and always cross reference and double check sources. Same can be even said about more reliable sources like Artscroll where many errors have been found (and fixed in later editions). Regarding work done on Shabbos, I would think enough time passed now that they could have gotten that work done during the week and it would be permitted to benefit from now… Though this isn’t like a pedestrian bridge, it’s Torah so I can understand avoiding it on principle.
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