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December 16, 2014 11:13 am at 11:13 am #614476TheGoqParticipant
I am a Diabetic so i know to stay away from bakeries and donut shops cause if i go in one i will eat somethings that can harm me, what about people addicted to alcohol/drugs?
December 16, 2014 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #1050133akupermaParticipant1. How do you define diesease?
2. Many medical conditions are largely the result of lifestyle.
3. Are you arguing wither addiction should be a factor in criminal liability? Should health insurance refuse to cover lifestyle related conditions (e.g. type 2 diabetes which is caused by eating too much and exercising too little)? What about cancers that correlated and may be caused by lifestyle choices?
4. It should be noted that the medical professions generally make more money by treating deseases, especially with drugs and surgery, then from preventing them through lifestyle counseling. Selling Janumet and insulin pays well, encouraging people to eat less and exercise more doesn’t make money for the health care industry.
December 17, 2014 3:43 am at 3:43 am #1050135charliehallParticipant“It should be noted that the medical professions generally make more money by treating deseases, especially with drugs and surgery, then from preventing them through lifestyle counseling.”
This is true but it isn’t their fault. Insurance companies will pay for lung cancer treatment but won’t pay a doctor to spend 15 minutes with a patient to talk about how important it is to quit smoking.
December 17, 2014 3:45 am at 3:45 am #1050136charliehallParticipant“what about people addicted to alcohol/drugs”
Nobody sets out to become an addict, and if they could control their use of drugs or alcohol it would not be an addiction.
December 17, 2014 5:52 am at 5:52 am #1050137☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantThe situation of someone who is currently addicted
to a substance is not the same as yours.
When they have not had their substance, they feel a far more intense
desire (sometimes in fact a physiological need) for it than your
desire to eat some good mezonos.
December 21, 2014 12:48 am at 12:48 am #1050138natethegr8Memberi am a former smoker bh i managed to quit but its completly impossible for someone who was never an addict to understand it its very different from having a tayvah for a cookie
December 22, 2014 3:54 am at 3:54 am #1050139mtydhdMemberAddiction is self afflicted. Smoking, drugs, etc. All of these can be addictive. Sweets however, are not an addiction. There is a hormone that gets released when the body craves sweets. It’s different than an addiction. It’s a craving.
With addictions, a person can get sick if they don’t satisfy their need. A craving can easily be overcome.
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December 22, 2014 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #1050140🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipantInsurance actually does pay for lifestyle counseling. Doctors however will tell the patient “you should exercise more” and then bills for the annual lifestyle counseling. It’s hard to enforce.
December 22, 2014 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #1050141TheGoqParticipantSo if addicts don’t stop their destructive behavior is it the consensus that it’s not really their fault? that they are predestined to their fates as addicts?
I meant no disrespect to addicts in starting this thread though I am not addicted to any substances so perhaps the comparison to diabetes is inaccurate, and I am sure that being a recovering addict is very difficult and I am not looking to assign blame, but we all have trials we must overcome to be productive members of society.
December 22, 2014 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm #1050142Chochom-ibberParticipantWhat does diabetes have to do with addiction??
December 22, 2014 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #1050143–ParticipantInsurance companies will pay for lung cancer treatment but won’t pay a doctor to spend 15 minutes with a patient to talk about how important it is to quit smoking.
Ironically the original meaning of the word “doctor” isn’t someone that practices medicine. It is someone who has enough expertise in a particular field to be able to teach that knowledge to someone else.
But I’m sure you knew that already, this if for others who may be following along.
December 24, 2014 1:55 am at 1:55 am #1050144ObstacleIllusionParticipantThere are many addicts that are functioning members of society. I’m confused by what exactly your question or point is.
December 29, 2014 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm #1050145☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantSo if addicts don’t stop their destructive behavior is it the consensus that it’s not really their fault?
No – but it is very difficult to overcome.
that they are predestined to their fates as addicts?
It’s a difficult thing to hold them
accountable for, but I wouldn’t go that far…
In many cases they could have avoided becoming addicted in
the first place (drugs, for example), so those cases can be
considered self-inflicted, if not necessarily self-perpetuated.
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