Is Addiction a self inflicted disease?

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    TheGoq
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    I am a Diabetic so i know to stay away from bakeries and donut shops cause if i go in one i will eat somethings that can harm me, what about people addicted to alcohol/drugs?

    #1050133
    akuperma
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    1. How do you define diesease?

    2. Many medical conditions are largely the result of lifestyle.

    3. Are you arguing wither addiction should be a factor in criminal liability? Should health insurance refuse to cover lifestyle related conditions (e.g. type 2 diabetes which is caused by eating too much and exercising too little)? What about cancers that correlated and may be caused by lifestyle choices?

    4. It should be noted that the medical professions generally make more money by treating deseases, especially with drugs and surgery, then from preventing them through lifestyle counseling. Selling Janumet and insulin pays well, encouraging people to eat less and exercise more doesn’t make money for the health care industry.

    #1050135
    charliehall
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    “It should be noted that the medical professions generally make more money by treating deseases, especially with drugs and surgery, then from preventing them through lifestyle counseling.”

    This is true but it isn’t their fault. Insurance companies will pay for lung cancer treatment but won’t pay a doctor to spend 15 minutes with a patient to talk about how important it is to quit smoking.

    #1050136
    charliehall
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    “what about people addicted to alcohol/drugs”

    Nobody sets out to become an addict, and if they could control their use of drugs or alcohol it would not be an addiction.

    #1050137

    The situation of someone who is currently addicted

    to a substance is not the same as yours.

    When they have not had their substance, they feel a far more intense

    desire (sometimes in fact a physiological need) for it than your

    desire to eat some good mezonos.

    #1050138
    natethegr8
    Member

    i am a former smoker bh i managed to quit but its completly impossible for someone who was never an addict to understand it its very different from having a tayvah for a cookie

    #1050139
    mtydhd
    Member

    Addiction is self afflicted. Smoking, drugs, etc. All of these can be addictive. Sweets however, are not an addiction. There is a hormone that gets released when the body craves sweets. It’s different than an addiction. It’s a craving.

    With addictions, a person can get sick if they don’t satisfy their need. A craving can easily be overcome.

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    #1050140
    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
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    Insurance actually does pay for lifestyle counseling. Doctors however will tell the patient “you should exercise more” and then bills for the annual lifestyle counseling. It’s hard to enforce.

    #1050141
    TheGoq
    Participant

    So if addicts don’t stop their destructive behavior is it the consensus that it’s not really their fault? that they are predestined to their fates as addicts?

    I meant no disrespect to addicts in starting this thread though I am not addicted to any substances so perhaps the comparison to diabetes is inaccurate, and I am sure that being a recovering addict is very difficult and I am not looking to assign blame, but we all have trials we must overcome to be productive members of society.

    #1050142
    Chochom-ibber
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    What does diabetes have to do with addiction??

    #1050143
    Participant

    Insurance companies will pay for lung cancer treatment but won’t pay a doctor to spend 15 minutes with a patient to talk about how important it is to quit smoking.

    Ironically the original meaning of the word “doctor” isn’t someone that practices medicine. It is someone who has enough expertise in a particular field to be able to teach that knowledge to someone else.

    But I’m sure you knew that already, this if for others who may be following along.

    #1050144
    ObstacleIllusion
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    There are many addicts that are functioning members of society. I’m confused by what exactly your question or point is.

    #1050145

    So if addicts don’t stop their destructive behavior is it the consensus that it’s not really their fault?

    No – but it is very difficult to overcome.

    that they are predestined to their fates as addicts?

    It’s a difficult thing to hold them

    accountable for, but I wouldn’t go that far…

    In many cases they could have avoided becoming addicted in

    the first place (drugs, for example), so those cases can be

    considered self-inflicted, if not necessarily self-perpetuated.

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