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  • #1066971
    Patur Aval Assur
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    (This should have been in my last post nut it was already long enough.)

    R’ Herzog emphatically rejects the Ohr Sameach’s pshat. He agrees with your sensibilities (Randomex) that it doesn’t make sense that the murderer can’t leave for pikuach nefesh, but he concludes that it’s a gezeiras hakasuv and ‘???? ??????? ?????? ????????? ?????? ????? ??????? ? (he doesn’t quote the entire pasuk). So according to him Dorothy would not have been able to leave under any circumstances, barring the death of the kohen gadol.

    #1066972
    Patur Aval Assur
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    Dorothy actually left the ir miklat twice. She left at the end, but she also left before that to kill the Wicked Witch of the West.

    So we can say that she held like the Cheshek Shlomo that I quoted earlier, ??? ????? ???? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ????? ?”? ???? ???? ??? ????? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ???? and leaving to kill the witch was obviously in the category of ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ????? ?? ????? (though according to the Cheshek Shlomo even stam ????? ????? would suffice). And that is why she had to return to the Emerald City

    afterwards – ??? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ????. And she apparently held like Moderator 80 that the wizard leaving was akin to dying, hence she was then allowed to leave. This also very nicely answers the Scarecrow’s kashya of why the Good Witch didn’t tell Dorothy how to get home via the Ruby Slippers the first time they met (without having to resort to the witch’s super dochek answer) – Dorothy wasn’t yet allowed to leave.

    #1066973
    Chortkov
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    Can somebody explain this to me? I came across it by following a couple of links…

    #1066974
    Patur Aval Assur
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    It was Randomex trying to convince me that I don’t have to defend myself from three years ago.

    #1066975
    Chortkov
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    I worked out the context. But who is accused of being Eliezer Yudlowsky?

    #1066976
    Joseph
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    The Evil Witch of the West died because a cyclone lifter up the house of Dorothy’s aunt and landed it on the witch, as oomis pointed out. Dorothy being in the house at the time does not bear her any responsibility, even unintentionally.

    The Evil Witch of the East died from being unintentionally doused with a bit of water. Water does not normally kill, as Feivel said.

    #1066977
    Patur Aval Assur
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    No one. Randomex was using Yudkowsky to demonstrate that I don’t have to defend myself.

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