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January 12, 2012 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm #601593JewishHockerParticipant
Do the Internet filters you read about in article’s against the internet & the harm it causes really help,what with all the technology in today’s day & age to get around it?
If so can someone recommend one?
January 12, 2012 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm #842937zahavasdadParticipantYou can always get around internet filters.
I had a yeshiva guy at my house for shabbos and he told me at his yeshiva there was filtered internet and youtube was blocked and all the guys knew how to defeat the filter.
The only way to successfully block internet is to self-block and self control
January 12, 2012 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #842938BTGuyParticipantHi JewishHocker.
This is a two-fold problem, I guess.
For the first part, I saw an interesting concept being used in Lakewood. It’s like a buddy system. You buddy up with someone who will get a report of all the sites visited, and vice versa. Knowing your “buddy” will know the sites surfed, will help prevent accidently looking into things out of curiosity, etc.
The second part of the problem is searching for something innocent, and then the search engine brings you to a site that is no good at all. Those kinds of filters are not perfect. Even something like Youtube where you want to look up the performance of a Jewish singer, anyone can type in the comments, and you can find foul language in the comments of even cartoony things that the kids like to go to.
Because of such things like this, in truth, those giving extreme warnings about internet, are correct. The way I see it, and correct me if I am wrong, a person never using the internet IS cleaner than if that same person used the internet even with the best of care.
January 12, 2012 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #842939akupermaParticipantNone work perfectly, and anyone with moderate computer skills can evade them. If you set the standards too high, you’ll end up blocking things you might want to access. At work, they have filters but they have to tell people how to go around them when needed. However they cleverly have told everyone that someone high up and see what you are doing every minute on your computer, so don’t do anything you aren’t supposed to. So if you are worried about your kid looking at “naughty” sites, make sure the kid is afraid of Ha-Shem (even if he regards you as harmless).
January 12, 2012 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #842940em0616MemberI have worked for a company, where we had a contract
to wire hundreds of (catholic) schools to high speed
Internet. With some expertise, one can create a system
that cannot be defeated. Sounds to me that the yeshiva,
does not have a professional firewall/internet filtering
solution. It has to be impossible to defeat, else parents
would have the right to sue, if their kids get exposed
to inappropriate things.
The best solution at home, is to install K9 web protection,
which is free. (do a google search for it). As long as
nobody knows the password, the only way to defeat it, is to
reinstall the operating system.
January 12, 2012 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #842942tzaddiqMemberso true, zahavasdad, so true.
however i used a computer recently without a filter and ads jumped out at me that otherwise wouldn’t have if it had a filter. the point is if one needs the services of a computer,you are less likely to see things you shouldn’t if it had a filter.
I have ‘jnet’ filter, btw, and very satisfied.
January 13, 2012 3:47 am at 3:47 am #842943dash™ParticipantThe best solution at home, is to install K9 web protection,
which is free. (do a google search for it). As long as
nobody knows the password, the only way to defeat it, is to
reinstall the operating system.
I have succsessfully uninstalled K9 Web Protection without knowing the password. It’s not that hard.
January 13, 2012 5:05 am at 5:05 am #842944OneOfManyParticipanttzaddiq – my family also has jnet, and for some reason we’ve been getting a lot of service outages recently. Is that just us?
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