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  • #2134706
    ☕️coffee addict
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    *BREAKING: ISRAEL ELECTION:* With about 97% of the vote counted, Benjamin Netanyahu’s right-religious bloc has 65 seats to form a government – a commanding majority of the Knesset’s 120 seats that will put him back in the premiership.

    Currently, Likud has 31; Yesh Atid, 24; Religious Zionism, 14; National Unity, 12; Shas, 12; United Torah Judaism, 8; Yisrael Beytenu, 5; Ra’am, 5; Hadash-Ta’al, 5 and Labor has 4.

    The final number of seats the bloc receives can still change as more ballots are processed, including some 500,000 “double envelopes” containing ballots cast by soldiers, prisoners and diplomats.

    From YWN WhatsApp

    If this holds true then that means that שומרי שבת parties comes out to 34 seats, which is more than likud and is more than 1/4 of the people who voted, and this election had the highest turnout since 1999

    #2134765
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Final Count: Right-Wing Bloc Has 64 Seats, UTJ Loses Seat, Lapid Concedes

    How is there a disparity between WhatsApp and the website?

    #2134807
    ujm
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    The numbers are still in flux and changing. There’s a few left wing parties that may change from being above or below the threshold to get into parliament based on the absentee ballots (military, police, prison, etc) that weren’t counted yet. Such a change will change the number of seats for all other parties.

    #2134838
    Sam Klein
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    Let’s make sure that we don’t forget the real truth of who really runs THE ENTIRE WORLD and every tiny city and state Hashem the king of kings ruler of the world and these politicians are just messengers agents of Hashem to act as leaders.

    “Lev melochim vsorim byad Hashem”……

    all election results were already decided and sealed in Heaven by Hashem before even the first person voted but yes we all have to do our hishtadlus and there’s also something called “ain somchin al Haneis”…. We don’t just sit back and depend on Miracles

    #2134875
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Thank you Sam

    הממליך מלכים ולו המלוכה

    I’m happy that Hashem decided who should be in power

    #2134876
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Ujm,

    WhatsApp said 97% and website made afterwards says 86%

    #2134882
    ujm
    Participant

    CA: Those percentages are enough to change whether a party is in or out.

    #2134900
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Ujm,

    What are you talking about?

    #2135008
    akuperma
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    1, The paper ballots usually favor Likud, and especially disfavor the Arab parties and the Chareidi parties – since most of them are cast by soldiers.

    2. If Balad has allied it self with another Arab party, and if Meretz had allied itself with another far-left party (e.g. Labor, which barely passed the threshold), the result would probably have been another stalemate.

    3. While the Chareidi parties have options other than supporting Likud (and have some bargaining power with Netanyahu), the “Religious Zionist” party does not, so if Netanyahu rejects any of their demands they have no choice but to accept. This is because the left wing does not have to be viciously anti-Chareidi (and in the past, the Labor party tried to avoid alienating the Chareidi), whereas the “Religious Zionists” demands (such as “transfer”,i.e., “ethnic cleansing” of Arabs) are intolerable to the groups that will now be in opposition.

    #2135027
    BarryLS1
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    akuperna; nobody is talking about ethnic cleansing. I have no idea where you got that from. The only comments were about deporting terrorists.

    The most annoying thing, is the Jewish in name only American Liberal Jews thinking they know what’s better for Israel, than Israelis.

    #2135062
    ubiquitin
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    “The most annoying thing, is the Jewish in name only American Liberal Jews thinking they know what’s better for Israel, than Israelis.”

    don’t let a silly talking point annoy you.

    Israelis don’t agree on what is best for Israel .
    There was just an election. although Netanyahu and the “right” have a clear majority.

    LEft/liberal parties got some votes too I think. The second largest party (Yesh Atid) for example. Even Meretz that didnt cross the threshold got over 100,000 votes.

    So When Liberal Jews oppose Netanyahu it is silly to say they know better than “Israelis” They think they know better than some and agree with others.

    #2135069
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “2. If Balad has allied it self with another Arab party, and if Meretz had allied itself with another far-left party (e.g. Labor, which barely passed the threshold), the result would probably have been another stalemate.“

    True, and this showed the power of achdus and its role vis a vis gaavah

    In the end it’s a good time for klal yisrael in Israel

    #2135098
    Reb Eliezer
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    Lapid conceded and Benjamin Netanyahu’s right-religious bloc won.

    #2135276
    BarryLS1
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    ubiquitin: On the contrary, the vote totals were overwhelmingly from the Right. In general, every election’s votes were significantly Center and Right. Actual radical Left-wing parties are facing oblivion. Meretz is out and Labor got 5 seats.

    Lieberman is really on the Right, but hates Chareidim more then he cares about the Country. Lapid and Ganz, while good for nothing, aren’t extreme Left.

    #2135353
    akuperma
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    BarryLS1: Israel already deports (or incarcerates) terrorists. That is established party. What the Religious Zionism party is talking about, is getting rid of all Arabs, or at least those Arabs who don’t support the zionists (they seem unclear on the matter, though it appears that a very considerable percentage of Israeli Arabs prefer to be living under zionist rather than Palestinian or Islamic rule). To “remove” someone from a country is rarely easy. Typically one “removes” them by putting them in a truck, or railway car or ship, and dumping them somewhere (e.g. the British use of coffin ships to get rid of rebellious Celts, the German use of railcars to get rid of us, etc.). Sometimes you can convince them to go peacefully, albeit at gunpoint (e.g. the American’s “trail of tears”). One should note that all these techniques of “removing” undesirable ethnic groups from one’s country, are now considered to be crimes against humanity, which along with terrorism, enslavement and piracy get you the legal status as “Hostis humani generis”.

    #2135365

    As many noted, probably a majority of the government faction are shomer shabbat.

    So, now comes the challenge – as the whole world looks with a magnifying glass at Am Isroel – will they see am kadosh venavon or will they see infighting and hillul Hashem? One of the haverei knesset is quoted as saying to a loser: “we will treat you fairly, we are not animals like you”, which is encouraging sans the comparison…

    So, if davening for election results or skipping tachanun may or may not be appropriate, davening for the new government to be wise and honorable is certainly appropriate.

    #2135395
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    Barry

    You say “On the contrary”

    but nothing you wrote is contrary to what I said .

    In a nutshell: “Left/liberal parties got some votes too I think.” Am I mistaken in that assessment?

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