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June 6, 2011 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm #793217hanabMember
Hello, mods? I tried in two subtle ways to explain, I actually agree with you for not passing either. Do you have any way to reference the facts, letoeles hainyan, that you feel would be passable?
Let us just say that it’s entirely inappropriate, in a publication to the Yeshiva community in Lakewood, (particularly when it is expected to be accessible to children, but even achutz dem)to refer to parts of the anatomy that are considered ervah. The act committed is despicable to the utmost whether you understand from this or not. You can always go get the paper, if you have the stomach for it….
June 6, 2011 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm #793218yid.periodMemberOHH MY GOOSH!!
this irony is amaaaaziiing! Mods! I LOVE your sense of humor!
June 7, 2011 1:20 am at 1:20 am #793219Midwest2ParticipantAbout the magazine, I’m not sure, since I don’t live in Lakewood. The obvious thing to do is just throw it out as soon as it comes and write a letter to the editor. If your friends are willing, let them do so too.
About teaching the Holocaust to children: children figure things out very young. Terrible things frighten them. What frightens them even more is when the adults around them seem frightened, and refuse to talk about things. There are various levels of “teaching” the Holocaust, ranging from the simple statement that a madman killed many, many Jews to detailed descriptions of what happened at Auschwitz. Please, be honest with your children. I know people who went off the derech because the people around them refused to talk about what happened to their (the children’s) parents and families. When your children ask, answer – maybe not in gruesome detail, but enough to satisfy the child’s need to know. Sixth grade is already way too late for general discussions, and it’s probably still too young for really detailed accounts.
Tailor your answer to the child’s character and age. If you know he/she is imaginative, go easy on the details. But never, ever refuse to answer at all. The unknown is always more fearsome.
June 7, 2011 3:15 am at 3:15 am #793221bombmaniacParticipantI’m sorry I just can’t pass judgement based on such vagueries. Mods, do everyone a favour and let them post what they want.
June 7, 2011 4:07 am at 4:07 am #793222real-briskerMemberbomb – Did you get your pun yet?
June 7, 2011 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #793223bombmaniacParticipantlol yes i did 😛
June 7, 2011 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #793224hanabMemberWell, of course it didn’t pass moderation. I’m telling you the details are unfit for a ‘frum’ forum and you don’t believe me!
I tried googling “syrian boy tortured”, with great trepidation. Well, the first article did not see fit to include the detail featured by the publication under discussion.
To those concerned that we keep up with the news, not everyone feels that it’s important to know every gory detail. My objection, in any case, was not to the gory aspect, but the lack of tznius in naming a specific eiver that was amputated.
Bombmaniac, I don’t know if you’re trying to elicit the details just for the fun of it, but you can obviously google away to satisfy your curiosity. I really don’t think anyone else here wants to hear the details. On the other hand, I am frustrated that almost no one is outraged about the article in question, although I do understand that without hearing the exact words the reader may not realize the extent of the outrage they would feel.
June 7, 2011 3:29 pm at 3:29 pm #793225YW Moderator-80MemberI am frustrated that almost no one is outraged about the article in question.
i am outraged about the article.
June 7, 2011 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #793226hanabMemberThank you, Mod-80. Are you outraged enough to call some advertisers?
June 7, 2011 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #793227YW Moderator-80Memberno, im not that outraged.
what did the publishers say in their defense when you spoke to them?
June 7, 2011 6:18 pm at 6:18 pm #793228apushatayidParticipantIs your hangup over the use of the word that refers to a specific limb? The fact that they described something gruesome (even if it was an arm for example)? That your kids read the article?
June 7, 2011 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #793229zahavasdadParticipantI am not trying to be rude and I didnt see if you answered
this publication is free to print whatever they want 1st amendment AND you are free NOT to let it in your house which is your right.
You have your standards and others have their standards. Its not for the publication to make the decision whose standards to follow, its yours, if you approve let it in your house, otherwise send it to the recycling bin outside
June 10, 2011 1:53 am at 1:53 am #793231bombmaniacParticipantZman has published numerous articles concerning the Holocaust. Rather graphic articles. No one complained. Once again, I’m not seeing a problem. I don’t care how graphic the article is, what makes it inappropriate, the fact that you, personally, are not able to handle certain details? I hardly think that qualifies as inappropriate.
June 10, 2011 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm #793232☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantthis publication is free to print whatever they want 1st amendment
And anyone outraged is free to call the publisher and complain.
June 12, 2011 3:06 am at 3:06 am #793233charliehallParticipantTo those who object to this article (which I have not seen):
Would you remove masechte Yevamot from the beit midrash? From your personal shelves?
June 12, 2011 3:41 am at 3:41 am #793234R.L.MemberI think that you can probably safely post the name of the publication without any kids running to check it out. I’m 15, and I guess that makes me young. If I wanted to read something inappropriate (and I’m not entirely sure that this article would qualify as inappropriate) I would be on the NY Times web sight – not on YWN.
June 12, 2011 6:56 am at 6:56 am #793235☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWould you remove masechte Yevamot from the beit midrash? From your personal shelves?
I haven’t read the article either, but I think your analogy is poor. This article was printed (apparently) in a publication with features for children.
August 2, 2011 7:40 am at 7:40 am #793236Orthodox IndependentMemberI don’t think most responsible parents will allow their young children to be unsupervised on-line without filters, or at the public library, for that matter.
I pity anyone (and their children) who doesn’t realize how ridiculously easy it is to evade <i>any</i> internet filter.
(Even server-based filtering such as JNet, has easy work-arounds. For obvious reasons, I won’t elaborate.)
August 2, 2011 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #793237MDGParticipantTo those who object to this article (which I have not seen):
Would you remove masechte Yevamot from the beit midrash? From your personal shelves?
Only adults and older children can learn Yevamot. 7 and 8 year olds can’t.
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