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  • #589802
    feivel
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    i seem to recall a thread like this a while back, not sure.

    this might be very useful for people here, especially for their Olam HaBah

    im not sure how this would apply to Sephardi pronunciation but the Mishna Berurah makes a strong point that when putting on Tefillin, one should pronounce hah-maw-niach, with a kametz not ha-mah-niach with a patach. one way means to place, one means to put aside or abandon.

    i would love to hear other such Halachas that many people may not be aware of.

    #645672
    squeak
    Participant

    moti – good one to bring up! I too, am annoyed when a Shatz does that, or when someone is saying kaddish and ends off “D’amiran b’alma v’imru” and then waits to say “amen” together with those responding. Please think about what you are saying! The one who is saying kaddish is telling the people to say “amen”, so tell them that! V’imru amen – and say amen. V’imru – and say. And say what?

    This problem is also aggravated by the fact that sometimes the “nusach” (i.e. the tune that the chazzan uses) lends itself to making this mistake.

    #645673
    feivel
    Participant

    moi

    what do you mean by “cut short”?

    do you mean he should say it rapidly, or do you mean he should not say the complete word?

    i dont believe the latter would be correct

    #645674
    feivel
    Participant

    someone is saying kaddish and ends off “D’amiran b’alma v’imru” and then waits to say “amen” together with those responding. Please think about what you are saying! The one who is saying kaddish is telling the people to say “amen”, so tell them that! V’imru amen – and say amen. V’imru – and say. And say what?

    aah squeak

    this bothers me every day

    and it is not only common sense, but the Mishna Berurah makes this point.

    i see it done incorrectly so very frequently

    by the way, the opposite logic applies to BrichHu in the Kaddish. logically the S’Tz and everyone should say it together, but the M’B says here too the Shatz should say it first followed by the Tzibbur. i dont know why.

    #645675
    moti107
    Member

    Feivel

    I mean ending the entire word in a hurry not in a smooth length since there are some mispalelim who are starting to answer amen before completing the last word of the bracha. check it out on your next teffila and you’ll be amazed.

    #645676
    feivel
    Participant

    moti

    i see

    yes, i have even seen a certain person or two who say Amen before the Shatz even BEGINS the last word.

    they just dont know, thats how they have done it their whole lives

    #645677
    moti107
    Member

    Its pretty scary to find out after 120 that you have no Amens in your account.

    #645678
    JayMatt19
    Participant

    Here is one I just saw today, quite applicable:

    If the minyan has accepted Shabbos already, one may not daven Mincha there. Even if it is still before shkiah. Instead one daven in the hallway, or if empty, the Ezras Nashim.

    #645679
    moti107
    Member

    Jay

    Accepted shabbos in what aspect? since most of us daven Mincha after we stop doing a melacha.

    #645680
    squeak
    Participant

    I think he means as in reaching the end of Kabbolas Shabbos.

    Similarly (although I can’t think of a city where this happens today), if an entire city or neighborhood brings in Shabbos early, you as a yochid must be makabel shabbos along with them. In every place I know of, there is at least one “early shabbos” minyan and one “late shabbos” minyan, so this would not be an issue. But if you know of someplace that only has “early shabbos”, travelers through that city would need to be careful, or they would be mechallel shabbos.

    #645681
    JayMatt19
    Participant

    Lets say the shul is being mekabel early Shabbos. If they already said Mizmor Shir L’Yom Hashabbos, the tzibbor is considered to have been mekabel Shabbos. So if someone walks in now, they cannot daven mincha in the shul, even though it might still be an hour to shkiah.

    This does not apply once the minyan is done and has left.

    This is important to know during the summer months when many, if not most bring in the Shabbos early.

    #645682
    JayMatt19
    Participant

    squeak, that would be quite common in small towns (with only 1 shul), or in Europe where shkiah can easily be after 9pm in many places.

    #645683
    feivel
    Participant

    also critical

    in the 2nd Brocha of SE

    it is ba-al gvuros, “master” of strengths

    not bal gvuros, meaning “without” strengths

    be very careful

    it is very easy to say it wrong and thus say words of apikorsus (even if the intent is not present)

    #645684
    kapusta
    Participant

    feivel, never knew that, thanx for clarifying.

    *kapusta*

    #645685
    postsemgirl
    Member

    The title is kinda funny. Aren’t all halachos important?

    #645686
    GoldieLoxx
    Member

    i heard this once please help me with it

    there is a bracha to say specifically when one sees the meditteranian sea. and this applies to flights as well.

    is this true? whats the bracha?

    #645687
    kapusta
    Participant

    I think theres a bracha to say when you ee an ocean and you havent seen one in… (not sure a month, 6 months) not sure what the bracha is. sorry to be so helpful 😉

    *kapusta*

    #645688
    aussieboy
    Participant

    You say a bracha if your seeing a diffrent sea then the one you usually see. You see?

    Even if you always see the medditeraininan and you go to the west coast you need to say one on the pacific too.

    #645689
    qaws
    Member

    Spueak – how about in a sleepaway camp. If there is only one minyan in the camp and the camp is in middle of nowhere, would this apply?

    #645690
    proud tatty
    Member

    No halacha fits this topic more then mayim achronim

    #645691
    moish01
    Member

    kapusta, it’s 30 days and it’s “she’asa es hayam hagadol”

    #645692
    feivel
    Participant

    postsemgirl:

    youre right

    #645693
    moti107
    Member

    Can anybody answer the following?

    I live in NY, Last week i was driving my car to shul to daven Mincha, it was very late, almost passed the Zman mincha as i reached the block of my shul i realized that i couldn’t find a parking space. I had a choice either to park double run in to shul and possibly (likely) get a ticket($115)or i could daven in the car mincha, or keep looking for a space and pass mincha time. What i did is irrelevant,my question is what would you fallows do?

    #645694
    lesschumras
    Participant

    Her is my question. Why in the world are people askling ( and accepting ) piskei halacha from anonymous strangers instead of asking their Rav?

    #645695
    feivel
    Participant

    park double run in to shul and possibly (likely) get a ticket

    not only possibly get a ticket, but much more important, block other cars from leaving. that would be very rude and certainly ASSUR, and possibly a chilul Hashem.

    #645696
    moish01
    Member

    ye i would say daven b’yochid. if you can’t- it’s probably better to not daven at all than to double park.

    #645697
    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    moti107:

    Which Z’man? if not RT (58 2/3 min after shkeia) you can be a “chossid for a day :)”

    I would not daven IN the car, rather drive back home & daven there.

    Les: No-one is arguing don’t AYLOR. This is a “what would you do” since in the hypothetical, YLOR is davening in the minyan and you can’t ask!

    #645698
    moti107
    Member

    Lesschumras

    I was not asking for piskei halacha here i was just asking what you would do in such a case when you dont have time to call a posek and every second counts. Its like a test on your self if you can put your self in such a position.

    Feivel

    In my case it wouldn’t block the Traffic but yes you can add it to my debate.

    #645699
    feivel
    Participant

    moti

    i didnt mean traffic

    would it block people that are parked from leaving their parking space?

    i dont live in NY

    #645700
    moish01
    Member

    hey you can park by a pump. or a “no standing/parking any time” but you might get a big fat ticket.

    and if there’s a fire you might return to see a power hose running straight through your front seat windows.

    #645701
    moti107
    Member

    Fievel

    if you have the option you can park at the begining or end of the street, or if there is a gap between 1 car to the next one not enough for a parking space but just enough for the inside car to get his way out.

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