I’m not voting for Harris or Trump

Then your vote is worthless and your wasting your time cause everyone knows that she’s not going to win and already dropped out of the race and she is now a supporter of Trump.

Don’t waste your time and as crazy as these 2 candidates are of Trump and Harris at least your vote of the better of the 2 will help Trump win a better chance.

I understand exactly where you are coming from. Nikki Haley is conservative, smart, pro-Israel, level-headed, a decent person, and well-spoken. She is among a small number of politicians who I respect. I very much hoped she’d be the Republican nominee and then be elected President.

However, I believe your plan to vote for her as a write-in is a mistake. Here’s why: She’s not going to win, and you’re throwing your vote away. Right now, our brothers and sisters in Israel are fighting an existential war against a cruel, barbaric, and evil enemy, one that has already taken hundreds of soldiers’ lives and the lives of over 1,000 civilians. If one candidate is more likely than the other to send Israel weapons that can save our fighters’ lives, shoot down rockets, drones, and missiles launched by our enemies at our cities, and defeat anti-Israel measures in the U.N. then I will vote for that candidate – IMO it’s literal pikuach nefesh. I have relatives in the IDF who’ve fought in battles you’ve read about in the news and I’ve been told firsthand that getting the appropriate weaponry without delay literally makes a life-or-death difference. Whether I like the candidates or not, I’ll vote for the one who’s most helpful (or least harmful) of the two. Even if the election was between David Duke and Rashida Tlaib (c”v) I’d still make a choice rather than just throw up my hands and say they’re both horrible.

If you happen to live in a state that’s a no-doubter, i.e. either the Republican or Democrat is sure to win by a large margin, then you may have the choice of lodging a protest vote. But if there’s even a chance that your state is in play, please don’t throw away your vote.

I plan on b”n voting for Donald Trump. Not because he’s won a popularity contest in my mind, not because I think he’s a great and good person, but simply for the reason I gave above. Either way, regardless of who wins the election, we certainly have what to daven for.

How quickly we Jews forget that President Donald Trump
was not merely pro-Israel; he was THE MOST
pro-Israel USA President of all time.

How quickly we Jews forget that President Donald Trump
was not merely pro-Jewish; he was THE MOST
pro-Jewish USA President of all time.

As USA President, Donald Trump was more pro-Israel
and more pro-Jewish than the majority of USA Jews!

In the next USA Presential election, THE MOST pro-Israel
USA President of all time, Donald Trump, will compete against
a person who wants to become the MOST anti-Israel President
OF ALL TIME, Kamala Harris.

Given that the MOST pro-Israel candidate OF ALL TIME is
competing against the MOST anti-Israel candidate OF ALL TIME,
you might think that American Jews would ALL vote for
the MOST pro-Israel candidate OF ALL TIME, and reject
the MOST anti-Israel candidate OF ALL TIME.

But no! No! No! No! A thousand times NO!
That would be too logical!! That would make too much sense!!

American Jews have become very distracted by countless other issues,
many of them of minor importance or even totally irrelevant.

Because of these numerous distractions, and the confusion they create,
a large percentage of American Jews will vote for
the MOST anti-Israel candidate OF ALL TIME, and reject
the MOST pro-Israel candidate OF ALL TIME.

This a super-massive mistake, especially when Israel
is under intense attack, not only militarily, but also from:
the international news media, the International Criminal Court,
and as always, the United Nations Organization, and many others.

I go to vote as a civic duty, to show my children that it is important, and to lift the numbers of votes in frum neighborhoods for the purpose of local and state political clout. I see no reason, especially in a state where my vote won’t matter in terms of the Electoral college, to give my presidential vote to people who don’t reflect my values. I will write in someone that I admire or think is closest in terms of values. Either that, or I’ll leave it up to my kids to choose someone and get them more involved.

I can not decide between B Hillel and B Shammai on whether to sit or stand during Shma, so I am skipping it tonight, bli neder.

Anyone who really cares about the election should move to PA and register to vote. Nothing new here. I was reading about elections in Latvia in 1920s-30s, and there were trains of Jewish voters from several parties going from one district to another to maximize their chances against each other. I am not sure that was legal though.

coffee, you are mixing me up with R Tarfon who would do that, I will simply refrain in order not to offend one of the great tzadikkim.

coffee, thanks

“I was reading about elections in Latvia in 1920s-30s, and there were trains of Jewish voters from several parties going from one district to another to maximize their chances against each other. I am not sure that was legal though…”

AAQ: Move to Chicago where the city’s motto is “Vote Early, Vote Often” and you don’t have to be Litvish to register you cat to vote.

A gutten shabbos

Gadol, all democrats are in Chicago this week, I heard, so can I enjoy the rest of the USA?

It’s nice to see that at least one commentator here has remembered that the Biden Harris administration has sent hundred of millions of dollars worth of munitions to Isreal the past months.

All talk about the requirement for Hakaras Hatov never applied to Democrats, interestingly enough.

I dislike Democrats. Deeply. But I happen to dislike dishonesty more. Sure Biden has never been a friend to isreal in the past. But we owe him a tremendous debt of Hakaras Hatov for how he acted since October 7, for the most part.

“all democrats are in Chicago this week, I heard, so can I enjoy the rest of the USA….”

AAQ: Not really. There are only about 33,000 Dems attending the DNC convention in Chicago this week plus the approximately 4.5 million Illinois residents registered as Democrats. That means there are still over 77 million Democrats in the other 49 states to make your life miserable this week. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Maskil,

After October 7th, Brandon made statements supporting Israel and promised them munitions. Over the past eight months he’s repeatedly stabbed them in the back at the U.N. and during negotiations, then delayed vital arms shipments. Worthless VP Kamalek has done absolutely nothing and can only form an intelligible sentence when criticizing Israel and supporting its detractors.

Gadol, thanx 4 scaring me, I was just on the way to NYC … Should I return my ticket? I still think I’ll breath better than those 44,000 musketeers. The rest 76,956,000 are the innocent victims of propaganda, tinokos sheb nishba.

What IF President Biden will announce in his speech tonight: “I am Joe Biden and I am running for the second term”!

Will he be supported? dragged from the stage and sedated? Will there be a “mini primary”? Will ExCtLawyer get up and announce that he supports Mr. Biden? Biden-CTL ticket?

yechiell,

Sorry to inconvenience you with the truth, but there were 101 arms shipments to Israel in the first four months of the war which were then cut to 52 over the next five months, despite Israel’s desperate requests. This was due to Brandon and his lackeys pressuring Israel to agree to the cease fire they were negotiating while lying to them about the details.

@CoffeeAddict
Do you really dislike me deeply?

Ex-ctlawyer,

I’m commenting on Maskildoresh’s comment, they way I do it sometimes is by quoting his comments (hence the quotation marks)

Dorah,

More piles of your mindless and irrelevant kapo effluent defending this anti-Semitic administration. Israel doesn’t purchase the F-18, a carrier-based aircraft and they desperately begged for bombs and shells, which Brandon withheld.

Biden admin “withheld” weapons against Hamas that were meant to be used against Hezbollah. There is not an infinite supply of weapons.

@CoffeeAddict
Non-politicians speaking Tuesday at DNC included:

Jack Carter (Grandson of President Jimmy Carter)

Jack Schlossberg (grandson of JFK)

Both possible future politicians

Kyle Sweetzer, firmer Trump voter who jumped ship

Stephanie Grisham, former White House Press Secretary for Trump (political appointee but not a politician

Nabela Noor (internet content creator)

Kenneth Stribling (retired Teamster)

Ken Chennault (business executive)

Ana Navarro (media personality)

The vast majority of speakers are politicians which is as it should be at a political convention. Speeches are aimed at delegates and guests who are supporting the party, not the general public.

I made a 2am charter flight back home this morning and was in court at 9. This may have been my last national convention, time gif the younger generation to take over

A handful of anti-Israel protesters have briefly disrupted an event organized by an Orthodox Jewish group on the sidelines of the Democratic National Convention.

The Agudath Israel of America event focuses on growing electoral strength of the Orthodox Jewish community and rising antisemitism in the US.

While the event only mentions Israel in passing, a handful of masked, far-left protesters chant, “Brick by brick, wall by wall, Zionism has got to fall” and shout “shame on you” at participants.

-The Times of Israel, 8/20/2024-

Well I see my question was answered on the main site

In the 1980s and 1990s, Bill and Hillary Clinton were known as
two of the most scandal-plagued politicians in the entire history
of the United States of America. By an amazing series of
co-incidences, dozens of people who knew the secrets of
the Clintons committed suicide (or what APPEARED to be suicide).

Bill Clinton was known as “The Scofflaw President”.
Just in case you do not remember, a scofflaw is
a person who is constantly violating The Law.

Because we live an upside-down world, and also
because Americans have very short memories,
Bill and Hillary Clinton are now considered to be the
highly-respected elder statesmen of the Democratic Party.
Even worse, Hillary Clinton nearly became President!

Since Bill and Hillary Clinton were suspected in many dozens
of scandals and crimes, and never spent even one day in jail,
they are certainly the perfect people to
serve as mentors to the corrupt Democratic Party.

Regardless of what their faults were, Bill and Hillary Clinton
can at least claim, honestly, that they never hated America.
That makes them better Barack and Michelle Obama,
who do hate America.

The members of “The Squad” (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, etc) hate America and its allies
(especially Israel) even more than the Obamas ever did.