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Health, you said
“But with your obsession to putting down our president…”
I will tell you why I oppose Trump (and his vehement supporters) so much
Note: Not you, as you know I am quite fond of you. our conversations have been quite eye opening for me.
I will elaborate with an example from Bret Stephens ( A conservative) who said the following recently at a Daniel PEarl memorial lecture:
“Consider this recent exchange [Trump]
To which the president replies:
We are not a nation of logicians.
… The president is responding to a claim of fact not by denying the fact, but by denying the claim that facts are supposed to have on an argument.
This is my problem with Trump. Differences of opinion are critical to a democracy. Many dictatrorships have “elections” but with one candidate to choose from these are meaningless. While on most points I side with Democrats there are many many issues I side with Republicans. and that is healthy. Changing power every few years is a sign of a healthy democracy. Disagreement is good.
However in order to have a difference of opinion we need to agree on baseline facts.
for example there is a problem of mass shootings in the US. now soem feel more gun restrictions will help some feel arming more citizens will help. fine that is healthy. but if one where to argue that we have a lower mass shooting rate than other countries the discussion cant even begin.
Trump ran (and won!) a campaign based on blatant falshoods. starting with his early claim of Mexico sending rapists and murderers etc… If we cant agree that that isnt true how can we ever solve anything.
(While Hillary was no honest abe, the foundations of here campaign weren’t lies)
Until Trump starts telling the truth it is critical to call him out, not to be numbed by his blatant disregard.
As Stephens says in that same speech
Ubiq -“Health
People have to earn respect. Calling Trump a “third grader” is insulting to third graders. If I had a third grader who treated people the way Trump does I would smack him upside the head (not literally, but thats beside the point). that he tricked millions to vote for him doesnt change that one bit.”
That’s the problem with you liberals – you just don’t get it!
IDK if some voters were tricked, most like his agenda!
“Our president is responsible for American lives, not Canadian lives!”
“I responded to that point already of course you ignored it as you always do and as Trump does when pointed out over and over how wrong almost everything he says is)
Here is a reminder. YOU criticised Obama that he “couldn’t handle all the terrorism that occurred here and abroad!”
IT seems earlier you viewed the job of President as handling Terrorism that occurs abroad. And I dont disagree. With Great power comes great responsibility.”
I did respond to that – I said it wasn’t terrorism, but a terrorist act. Just like he doesn’t respond to homicides everyday in this country!
Helth
“most like his agenda!”
Lol you dont get it. what does your “liking his agenda” have to do with my respecting him?
“I did respond to that – I said it wasn’t terrorism, but a terrorist act. Just like he doesn’t respond to homicides everyday in this country!”
But this isnt a dail occurance in Canada. As you acknowledged.
But let me see if I get this straight
Terrorism anywhere – Yhe Us President should handle
Terrorist acts – only in America is it his job
Is that about right?
Health!, could you explain how a terrorist act is not terrorism? Sounds like Bill Clinton quibbling about the meaning of “is.”
Ubiq -“Is that about right?”
Very good! You’re starting to get it!
YY -“Health!, could you explain how a terrorist act is not terrorism?”
I’m not explaining something simple! Why don’t you ask a third -grader?
According to you – you can ask President Donald Trump!
“Very good! You’re starting to get it!”
no no please dont accuse me of getting it.
Im am just making sure I understand you correctly. But I certainly dont get it! This distinction like most of your postings exist only in your head and are not grounded in reality as most of us see it.
This is why I find our discussions so fascinating and enlightening
(and it is why you are a fan of The Donald (is that respectful enough?))
RebYidd, new subtitle? Are you a girl?
Shopping – wow, someone’s been busy shteiging! That subtitle’s been there for some time already. At least a few weeks, I think.
Aww Shopping613 you got a new subtitle too 🙂
So much fun!
Sorry Health!, I don’t currently have access to any third graders, but there might be some CR readers who qualify. Can anybody explain how a terrorist act can not be terrorism? Apparently news it’s obvious.
YY & Ubiq – (I’m being redundant.)
“Sorry Health!, I don’t currently have access to any third graders, but there might be some CR readers who qualify. Can anybody explain how a terrorist act can not be terrorism? Apparently news it’s obvious”
From Webster’s – “Terrorism – the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal”
That guy in Canada was a lunatic! He couldn’t accomplish any goals.
OTOH, the king of terrorism – Arafat was able to accomplish many goals!
For instance, the world accepts another 2 state solution; disregarding the previous one (Palestine and Transjordan)!
Now go back to your primary goal of putting down President Trump, with other complaints!
What makes you say he’s a lunatic? He seems like a run of the mill white supremacist. He supported Marine Lepen and Donald Trump. He’s not being charged with terrorism simply because the government doesn’t think they can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
YY -“What makes you say he’s a lunatic? He seems like a run of the mill white supremacist”
The funny thing is – it’s not the alt-right that’s into all the violence recently! It’s the new called Bolsheviks aka liberal left.
That’s why I said he’s just another lunatic. He doesn’t have a violent organization.
OTOH, we see daily violence from the extreme left!
Let me see if I get it. If somebody who commits an act of terror is a right winger or he “doesn’t have a violent organization,” he’s not a terrorist, so Timothy McVeigh was not a terrorist and neither are the lone-wolf Palestinians who attack Jewish targets. Is that what you’re saying?
YY -“Let me see if I get it. If somebody who commits an act of terror is a right winger or he “doesn’t have a violent organization,” he’s not a terrorist, so Timothy McVeigh was not a terrorist and neither are the lone-wolf Palestinians who attack Jewish targets. Is that what you’re saying?”
I don’t remember the McVeigh case, but the so-called Palestinians are definitely doing it for political gains!
Read the definition that I brought down above again!
No one from the right wing was impressed by this lunatic’s action!
Timothy McVeigh did the Oklahoma City bombing.
re No one from the right wing was impressed by this lunatic’s action!
From googling “Quebec mosque attack celebrated:”
[Soldiers of Odin]
YY -“No one from the right wing was impressed by this lunatic’s action!”
You just proved my point. I was talking about using violence and no one was impressed to violence against Muslims!
The left are in cahoots with the Muslim terror!
Look what just happened in France. S/o finger was sawed off.
Things like this didn’t happen, when France was more Conservative!
“Things like this didn’t happen, when France was more Conservative!”
Lol. You need to brush up on your French History. Terrorism in France was much worse in thr 70’s and 80’s. now granted in the 80’s the socialist Mitterand was PResident. But guess what Party Pompidou and Destang were from?
And of course there were a few bombings int eh 90’s under Chirac
Ubiq -“You need to brush up on your French History”
Stop with your Liberal propaganda!
Most of the terror were from Muslims.
It didn’t matter which party was in charge!
Do you think that the liberal policies’ of letting in all these so-called refugees is going to have more terror in France or less?!?
Dearest Dearest Health
Have I mentioned how you are may favorite poster?
“Things like this didn’t happen, when France was more Conservative!”
then few hours later:
“It didn’t matter which party was in charge!”
I find your blatant disregard for the truth amusing. you make a obviously false statement are exposed as not telling the truth and instead of hiding in shame or thanking for being corrected you attack those who take the item to explain things to you.
sound like any one you know? I’ll give you a hint he is Orange and is very sensitive about his hands
As to your question:
“Do you think that the liberal policies’ of letting in all these so-called refugees is going to have more terror in France or less?!?”
“ALL these So-called refugees”?
Probably more. why do you ask, are you starting a new thread?
On this thread we were discussing Trump’s refusal to condemn terrorism when doesnt fit with his xenophobic worldview. To which you explained in a very Conwayesque manner that that was a “terrorist act not Terrorism” what does letting in refugees have to do with the subject at hand
Also look up “straw-man”
Ubiq -“On this thread we were discussing Trump’s refusal to condemn terrorism when doesnt fit with his xenophobic worldview”
That’s funny! Your problem is that your Idol Obama couldn’t say Islam and terrorist together!
So talking about straw-men, you and him are the kings of it!
Stop trying to equate your Idol with the President!
Our president is taking a tough stance against Islamic Terrorism, while the liberals, like Obama and France, are still trying to appease the Muslim world!
“That’s funny! Your problem is that your Idol Obama couldn’t say Islam and terrorist together!”
I told you hes not my idol
And how does saying Islamic Terrorism together help? Other than turning away Muslim alies that we need what purpose would it accomplish?
If George Dubya could understand this, you shouldn’t have trouble
BTW “straw man” sine I see you couldn’t be bothered to look it up is
“an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent’s real argument.”
Nobody suggested letting in “ALL so-called refugees” certainly not on this thread, sinc eit isnt the topic at hand. and not on any other that I can recall
“Stop trying to equate your Idol with the President!”
I would never. compare the two. Even the comparison made ealrier between Trump and 3rd graders is insulting to third-graders
Though when it comes to a willful disregard for truth you do remind me of the Donald
see here for one of severla examples
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/if-im-not-antisemitic/page/2#post-649397
Health, why is your idol Trump any better than Obama?
Ubiq -“And how does saying Islamic Terrorism together help?”
It’s not saying them together, it’s showing the terrorists that we’ll do anything to prevent your ideology!
“Other than turning away Muslim alies that we need what purpose would it accomplish?”
More jokes! We don’t need the so-called Muslim allies to protect us!
“BTW “straw man” sine I see you couldn’t be bothered to look it up is
“an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent’s real argument.”
Nobody suggested letting in “ALL so-called refugees” certainly not on this thread, sinc eit isnt the topic at hand. and not on any other that I can recall”
All the liberal policies have done nothing to protect us!
This includes the Obama’s policies!
You liberals just don’t get it!
“I would never. compare the two. Even the comparison made ealrier between Trump and 3rd graders is insulting to third-graders”
Your insults to our president is typical of DemonCrats/liberals, when they don’t have a logical opposing argument, they resort to insults!
Yidd23 -“Health, why is your idol Trump any better than Obama?”
He’s not my idol!
Because he’s actually doing something to protect our country!
“It’s not saying them together, it’s showing the terrorists that we’ll do anything to prevent your ideology!”
Dont bombs give that message in an even better way than saying the magic words “Islamic terrorism”?
“More jokes! We don’t need the so-called Muslim allies to protect us!”
Lol, look at a map ISIS is based in IRaq, what look whose airspace is needed, look where US bases are.
“All the liberal policies have done nothing to protect us!”
Um yeah we have been safer under Obama than Bush.
also note how you didnt reply to my point.
” when they don’t have a logical opposing argument, they resort to insults!”
Said the Trump-worshiper. youre guy won based on insulting his way to the Top as Jeb mentioned during the campaign.
I cant list all his insults since this is a yeshiva website.
Ubiq -“Dont bombs give that message in an even better way than saying the magic words “Islamic terrorism”?”
Your Idol Obama & the DemonCrats keep trying to push that lie on the American people!
“Lol, look at a map ISIS is based in IRaq, what look whose airspace is needed, look where US bases are.”
Why do you think ISIS is based in Iraq?
I’ll post the answer below.
“Um yeah we have been safer under Obama than Bush.”
That’s because the DemonCrats, like Bill Clinton, didn’t ever think that Islam Terror was a threat to the US!
Why do you believe the liberal propaganda?!?
To answer your question:
Bombs are not the way to destroy the enemy!
You need ground troops!
From the news yesterday:
“Former President George W. Bush has told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that he was “frustrated” when the U.S. pulled troops out of Iraq in 2011, clearing the way for ISIS to be formed from the remains of Al Qaeda in Iraq.”
“keep trying to push that lie “
what lie? that bombs are more deadly than name calling?
also note: as usual you havent actually answered my question here it is again: “how does saying the words Islamic and Terrorism together help?”
“Why do you think ISIS is based in Iraq?”
Well mostly becasue they are. But ok, i’ll bite where are they based. LEt me guess on the grassy knoll or maybe in imaginary supreme court
“I’ll post the answer below.”
answer to what?
“Um yeah we have been safer under Obama than Bush.”
That’s because…”
what? we were safer under Obama because Bill Clinotn dint think Islam terror was a threat. Does that make sense to you? becasue that is what you wrote.
thr bottom line is we were safer under Obaam than Bush so your critiscm of “failled liberal polcies” doesnt hold much water
“To answer your question:”
which question does this answer?
“You need ground troops!”
Yes but we still need allies in the region where basis are eg Kuwait, Saudi Arabia
Ubiq -“also note: as usual you havent actually answered my question here it is again: “how does saying the words Islamic and Terrorism together help?”
I answered this already – here it is again:
“It’s not saying them together, it’s showing the terrorists that we’ll do anything to prevent your ideology!”
“Why do you think ISIS is based in Iraq?”
“Well mostly becasue they are. But ok, i’ll bite where are they based. LEt me guess on the grassy knoll or maybe in imaginary supreme court”
“I’ll post the answer below.”
“answer to what?”
This -“Why do you think ISIS is based in Iraq?”
Here it is again:
From the news yesterday:
“Former President George W. Bush has told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that he was “frustrated” when the U.S. pulled troops out of Iraq in 2011, clearing the way for ISIS to be formed from the remains of Al Qaeda in Iraq.”
“Um yeah we have been safer under Obama than Bush.”
“That’s because…”
what? we were safer under Obama because Bill Clinotn dint think Islam terror was a threat. Does that make sense to you? becasue that is what you wrote.
thr bottom line is we were safer under Obaam than Bush so your critiscm of “failled liberal polcies” doesnt hold much water”
Oh, of course it does, but you’re trying very hard to disillusion everyone!
My point was – it wasn’t Bush’s fault, that we safer under Obama than him! It was the fault of his predecessor – Billy Boy!
But keep dreaming that the libs will protect us from our enemies!
“You need ground troops!”
“Yes but we still need allies in the region where basis are eg Kuwait, Saudi Arabia”
We don’t need those allies!
Iraq would have begged us to help them to defend themselves against ISIS.
Have I mentioned you are my favorite poster?
“I answered this already – here it is again:”
Lol yet more lies.
You havent answered my question
here is a reminder you said :
“Your problem is that your Idol Obama couldn’t say Islam and terrorist together!”
I asked why it was important to say them together?
Now you are saying “”It’s not saying them together”
Ok, so your inital statement was wrong?
“From the news yesterday:”
got it I misunderstood your “reply” since this non-sequitor is irrelevant. My apologies. But brings us back to my question
Yo usaid why do we need allies. I replied “”Lol, look at a map ISIS is based in Iraq, what look whose airspace is needed, look where US bases are.” now that we are past your distraction can you answer my question please?
Without Muslim allies, how do you imagine an attack against ISIS occuring
“My point was – it wasn’t Bush’s fault, that we safer under Obama than him! It was the fault of his predecessor – Billy Boy!”
Clinton kept us safe under Obama. Ok got it.
“Iraq would have begged us to help them to defend themselves against ISIS.”
Most of the Muslim world is against ISIS thats why workign with them will benefit all
“Oh, of course it does, but you’re trying very hard to disillusion everyone!”
Other than the mods, nobody is reading. Like all conversations of ours they get pretty stupid quickly since you dotn reply to simple direct questions (care to change that this post alone has 2 questions Ive asked you several times)
Ubiq -“Lol yet more lies.
You havent answered my question
here is a reminder you said :
“Your problem is that your Idol Obama couldn’t say Islam and terrorist together!”
I asked why it was important to say them together?
Now you are saying “”It’s not saying them together”
Ok, so your inital statement was wrong?”
My understanding was not what you meant. Now I understand your question.
Not saying them together – is implying that there’s no such thing as Islamic Terror!
“But brings us back to my question
Yo usaid why do we need allies. I replied “”Lol, look at a map ISIS is based in Iraq, what look whose airspace is needed, look where US bases are.” now that we are past your distraction can you answer my question please?
Without Muslim allies, how do you imagine an attack against ISIS occuring”
There is enough airspace in Iraq without the so-called Muslim Allies!
“Clinton kept us safe under Obama. Ok got it.”
More absurdity and manipulation from you!
Clinton ignored the Islamic threat aga
<<ZAP>>
” is implying that there’s no such thing as Islamic Terror”
Well all the victims very much implies there is such a thing.
Growing up several rebbeim taught that it was a mitzvah to avoid paying taxes. They explained how the Western world was built on “geganvet yidisheh gelt” and whatever taxes we avoided paying was simply “geratavet yidshe gelt” of course they cautioned us to make sure we would never get caught.
Assuming you view this “shitah” as an inaccurate portrayal of yidishkeit. How would you feel if when a pesron who had this view was arrested it was labeled “Jewish-tax-evasion” ?
“There is enough airspace in Iraq without the so-called Muslim Allies!”
A. Whar religion do the majority of IRaqis practice?
B. Last I checked Iraq doesnt border the US
“More absurdity and manipulation from you!”
Nope that was from YOU: “that we safer under Obama than him! It was the fault of his predecessor – Billy Boy” You said we were safe under Oabam thanks to Clinton.
ubi, it’s obvious that Health!’s worldview is binary. Republican = good, Democrat = bad. It’s pointless to argue with him. Maybe it’s time you be quittin’.
Is that really what “Ubiquitin” means? I don’t get half the usernames.
yy
I dont think I’m going to convince him, i just find it fascinating when people are proven wrong and instead of retracting double down
LU
no,
From wikipedia: “Ubiquitin is a small protein that exists in all eukaryotic cells. It performs its myriad functions through conjugation to a large range of target proteins. A variety of different modifications can occur. The ubiquitin protein itself consists of 76 amino acids and has a molecular mass of about 8.5 kDa. Key features include its C-terminal tail and the 7 lysine residues. It is highly conserved among eukaryotic species: Human and yeast ubiquitin share 96% sequence identity.”
It was discivered by Israelis in the 70s’80’s for which they won the nobel prize in chemistry
“I dont think I’m going to convince him, i just find it fascinating when people are proven wrong and instead of retracting double down”
That’s impressive. Whenever that happens to me in the CR (which it does a lot), I just get frustrated and give up.
Thanks for the vocabulary/science lesson. So why did you choose it for a name?
Related to ubiquitous. From the Latin for “everywhere.”
LU
“which it does a lot”
Its not common to prove someone wrong.
I mean getting such gems as “I said it wasn’t terrorism, but a terrorist act” or the same poster saying “Your problem is that your Idol Obama couldn’t say Islam and terrorist together” followed by “It’s not saying them together, it’s showing the terrorists that we’ll do anything to prevent your ideology”
This isnt common.
The very first thread I commented on was http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-x-0 (I had long been a lurker) Watch how long the “discussion” goes about an elementary school math problem. Now I get not remembering the order of operations, or not remembering to apply them. but what blew my mind was when the answer and explanation were revealed people were still arguing! This is math the topic with only one correct answer. Its black and white there should be no roo for discussion or argumet. Yet people argue.
I chose ubiquitin becasue I had just read about it and thought it was interesting
Ubiq -“Well all the victims very much implies there is such a thing.”
This might be true, but the world never heard it from our former President – Obama! Now why do you think that is?!?
“Assuming you view this “shitah” as an inaccurate portrayal of yidishkeit. How would you feel if when a pesron who had this view was arrested it was labeled “Jewish-tax-evasion” ?”
Now you’re changing the topic. It’s unfortunate that you’re a leftist liberal, but now you sound like an Antisemite!
“There is enough airspace in Iraq without the so-called Muslim Allies!”
A. Whar religion do the majority of IRaqis practice?
B. Last I checked Iraq doesnt border the US”
It would be helpful if you read my posts before you responded to me!
Here it is again:
“We don’t need those allies!
Iraq would have begged us to help them to defend themselves against ISIS.”
“More absurdity and manipulation from you!”
“Nope that was from YOU: “that we safer under Obama than him! It was the fault of his predecessor – Billy Boy” You said we were safe under Oabam thanks to Clinton.”
That’s not what I said – Stop with your manipulation!
I said that the reason we were safer under Obama than Bush, was because Clinton ignored any Islamic threat!!!
ubiq- i get that you (both) enjoy this back and forth and i can barely read it all, let alone comment on the content but please allow me a comment –
firstly, this particular set of utterances:
Your problem is that your Idol Obama couldn’t say Islam and terrorist together” followed by “It’s not saying them together, it’s showing the terrorists that we’ll do anything to prevent your ideology”
really does make sense in terms of what it means and how that whole topic went down with obama. it is just not something obama supporters/trump oposers would understand/agree to/admit.
which kind of brings me to my next point that even though you two are experiencing an exaggerated level of this next point, i really have found this :
I dont think I’m going to convince him, i just find it fascinating when people are proven wrong and instead of retracting double down
to be true regarding obama and hilary supporters as well. I am not a trump supporter, but i am an obama/clinton opposer and i find myself reacting with exactly that thought when i hear sane, respected posters defend them in the face of what is so obvious to me and others. I don’t expect you to agree, or even see it, but you may not want to laugh quite so hard or think of yourself or your friends as quite as exempt from such behavior.
Lastly, regarding that math thread, it is funny to me to see that other perspective. when you say that something “has been explained”, what criterion are you using to expect i should assume something is true because someone explained it. I would need to check into it to find out if their “100% ironclad” opinion really is so. and sometimes its not.
just some things rolling around in my head while reading your post. I thought of your “arguments” with health as something between the two of you (albiet in public), but when i heard your “take” on it, it jarred me. sounded more demeaning than fun between two people.
i could be wrong.
Health
“Obama! Now why do you think that is?!?”
I believe I already told you no fewer than 3 times. Dubya too avoided the phrase for the same reason “Americans understand we fight not a religion…Ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith. Ours is a campaign against evil”
“Now you’re changing the topic”
Lol you are tha master at changing topics (this is a thread about Trump’s (initial) refusal to answer a simple direct question. you have managed to throw in all sorts of inaccurate and/or irelvvant “Thoughts” (much like your friend Trump)
This point is not off topic. I am pointing out to you that you wouldnt like it if your religion was used to color ideas yu disagreed with (at least I assume you dont like, it as you didnt actually answer my question, as usual)
“Iraq would have begged us to help them to defend themselves against ISIS”
A. What religion do the majority of IRaqis practice?
B. Last I checked Iraq doesnt border the US”
Deja vu?
“I said that the reason we were safer under Obama than Bush, was because Clinton ignored any Islamic threat!
Lol you keep saying the same thing That were safe under Obama thanks to Clinton. while nonsensical, of course I will let it slide
syag
“i can barely read it all”
Dont its pretty silly,
“it is just not something obama supporters/trump oposers would understand/agree to/admit.”
Not quite, I explained why Obama avoided the term, and then Health changed his mind and said the term wasnt an issue, of course he then changed back again.
“to be true regarding obama and hilary supporters as well.”
Oh one hundered percent correct! But I find it more true with Trump supporters. Trump ran a campaign built on falsehoods. while Hilary is without question a liar, the foundations of her political career wasnt conspiracy theroires about where people were born or lies regarding Mexican rapists abd getting MExico to pay for a wall that will never get built.
Or as Gingrich said regarding the GOP convention when challenged that crime was down he replied ” Though the statistics may show that It doesn’t feel that way” (Im paraphrasing) I found this astounding that he openly admitted facts arent as important. Of course we have only seen more of this leading to “alternative facts”
” i find myself reacting with exactly that thought when i hear sane, respected posters defend them in the face of what is so obvious to me and others.”
again I am not talking about a difference of opinion. That I respect and view as healthy. IT is disagreement in fact that I find entertaining. such as a poster claiming a source for a EMS guidline that was obiously made up or a SCOTUS case that never happened.
I get saying Obama was wrong for avoiding the phrase “islamic terrorsim” that isnt my (main argument) Reasonable peope can disagree. But then deciding that it wasnt an issue that confuses me. OR not criticizing Bush for the same.
“or your friends as quite as exempt from such behavior.”
My friends are all solidly in your camp to one degree or other.
“Lastly, regarding that math thread,…”
They dont have access to google? If you are unsure go google. That is ok too. That is how we learn more. Always inquire. Im not expecting anyone to believe everything (or anything) I say. but challenge it. say PEMDAS doesn’t always apply because xyz (and then of course We’d google that too)
Ubiq -“I believe I already told you no fewer than 3 times. Dubya too avoided the phrase for the same reason “Americans understand we fight not a religion…Ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith. Ours is a campaign against evil”
Let me ask you a question – Do you even know what the Muslim religion preaches about other religions? I think Not!
My advice to you is to read – Time Immorial from Joan Peters!
“A. What religion do the majority of IRaqis practice?
B. Last I checked Iraq doesnt border the US”
Deja vu?”
You come here pretending you’re the epitome of intelligence, but you can’t understand my simple point!
Of course they’re Muslims, but we don’t need them for allies. We should be their partners, but we don’t need them – they need us!
And we don’t need the other Muslim countries.
“I said that the reason we were safer under Obama than Bush, was because Clinton ignored any Islamic threat!
“Lol you keep saying the same thing That were safe under Obama thanks to Clinton. while nonsensical, of course I will let it slide”
For the last time, the country was not safe under Bush because of his predecessor named Clinton. If anything – the reason that we didn’t have too many terrorist attacks under Obama, was because Bush taught the world, that the US is now serious about dealing with terrorism!
Ubiq -“or a SCOTUS case that never happened.”
LOL!
Because you couldn’t find it – so it doesn’t exist?!?
Put your money where your mouth is!
For 2 million dollars, I’ll give you the case that went to the US Supreme Court!
“Let me ask you a question – Do you even know what the Muslim religion preaches about other religions?… joan Peters
Of course I do, and I have read Peters. I never meant to insinuate Islam was a peaceful religion. all I said was 1) saying “Islamic Terrorism” doesnt help any and 2) It is insulting to some and can hurt/
“You come here pretending you’re the epitome of intelligence”
I never pretended that. Though kudos to you for picking up on it.
“we don’t need them for allies. We should be their partners,”
got it! PArtners not allies, acts of terrorism not terrorists.
Tell me are you often partners with people who insult your religion?
“And we don’t need the other Muslim countries.”
no of course not. We will tunnel to IRaq and fuel with oil from our friends in Russia and Venezuella.
“For the last time…”
while that may be what you menat this is the first time youve said that.
“For 2 million dollars, I’ll give you the case that went to the US Supreme Court!”
Nah I’m good.
But for one million dollars I’ll sell you a bridge. though I should warn you the EMS on the bridge only follows actual EMS protocols not imaginary ones
“Let me ask you a question – Do you even know what the Muslim religion preaches about other religions?… joan Peters
Of course I do, and I have read Peters. I never meant to insinuate Islam was a peaceful religion. all I said was 1) saying “Islamic Terrorism” doesnt help any and 2) It is insulting to some and can hurt/
“You come here pretending you’re the epitome of intelligence”
I never pretended that. Though kudos to you for picking up on it.
“we don’t need them for allies. We should be their partners,”
got it! PArtners not allies, acts of terrorism not terrorists.
Tell me are you often partners with people who insult your religion?
“And we don’t need the other Muslim countries.”
no of course not. We will tunnel to IRaq and fuel with oil from our friends in Russia and Venezuella.
“For the last time…”
while that may be what you menat this is the first time youve said that.
“For 2 million dollars, I’ll give you the case that went to the US Supreme Court!”
Nah I’m good.
But for one million dollars I’ll sell you a bridge. though I should warn you the EMS on the bridge only follows actual EMS protocols.
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