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    popa_bar_abba
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    So that I could eat terumah on Maharat Weiss’s grave. See first medrash tanchuma this week.

    Not that I’m hoping he dies; this is said in the spirit of masi yagiah tzaras habas liyadai v’esaenah.

    #1001150
    MDG
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    Pray for his teshuva. See B’rachot 10a with Beruria, “al tikra chotim ela chata’im”

    #1001151
    popa_bar_abba
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    I started daf yomi with eruvin. So I’ll consider that in 6 years.

    Meanwhile I’ll daven v’lamalshinim al t’hi tikva. See today’s New York Times. V’hazeidim mheirah s’akeir u’s’shabeir v’sachnia b’mheira b’yomeinu!

    #1001152
    HaLeiVi
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    Popa, The New York Times is not part of my Daf Yomi. Mah Ksiv Bah?

    #1001153
    Bookworm120
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    @PBA – “Meanwhile I’ll daven v’lamalshinim al t’hi tikva.” I guess that works. 😛 Well said!

    #1001154
    popa_bar_abba
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    Weiss, after he won the fight, decided to go complain to the general American population about how Israel is undemocratic and a religious hegemony.

    Because apparently his cause to destroy Judaism is more important than American goodwill to Israel. I’m glad that now even Sam will agree that there is no shaila of saying lashon hara about him, since he is a malshin.

    #1001155
    Sam2
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    PBA: Can an idiot be a Malshin? I assume it requires a certain intelligence level (which he clearly lacks, from that article) to get yourself these statuses.

    #1001156
    popa_bar_abba
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    Good shayla. I don’t know. Let’s look it up. Sefer chofetz chaim section 1 klal 8 sif 12 or so

    #1001157
    MDG
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    I found and just starting reading the article hinted to by PBA. SICKENING. Could not finish it. Malshin. Attention ore.

    In the Gemara that I cited above, it says that the biryonim were causing trouble to Rabbi Meir with their bad interpretation of Torah. Rabbi Meir wanted to pray for their demise, but Bruriah told him to pray for their teshuva, which he did and it worked.

    This case is different to me. This is blatant attacking for no reason. I see the biryonim as Jews who had too much pride and not enough sechel nor learning. They seemed like good people but terribly misguided. Weiss, OTOH, is not fueled by what’s good for the Jewish people or the Torah, but only what’s good for social activism and his name.

    #1001158
    yytz
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    I’m not defending the article as a whole, but he has a point about this: “Religious choice would benefit all. When choice is available, religion in general and Orthodoxy in particular will fare better because people will have the freedom to embrace faith willingly.”

    In countries with official religions (like Scandinavia and the UK), in which the government pays the salaries of the religious functionaries, the clerics are lazy and arrogant. Consequently, religious belief and observance tends to go downhill fast, leading to a secularized society that resents or ignores religion.

    In contrast, countries like America, with a free market in religion, end up more religious (including more strict religions), because various religious groups have the ability, and an incentive, to attract new followers, and no one feels like they are being forced into anything by the government. Read Thomas Jefferson’s statute of religious freedom — and think about whether you agree with the underlying sentiment.

    For demographic reasons, Israel is going to become more Orthodox no matter what. But if the Rabbanut were privatized, it would happen faster, because the chilonim would resent religion far less, and a thousand flowers of kiruv would be allowed to bloom. If privatization helps the heterodox, such an effect would only be temporary.

    #1001159

    http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=38070&st=&pgnum=147

    Doesn’t talk about idiots, but I think Sam is being overly kind in assuming that the issue here is a lack of intelligence.

    #1001160
    YW Moderator-42
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    Weiss is a Kohen. Do you want to be like him?

    #1001161
    HaLeiVi
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    Did you see the Medrash Popa referred to?

    #1001162

    “Medrash Popa”? That’s going a bit too far, no?

    #1001163
    popa_bar_abba
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    lol

    #1001164
    YW Moderator-42
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    Saw the medrash over Shabbos. Interesting…

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