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April 26, 2015 11:31 am at 11:31 am #615569MameshhTov98Member
Over the loyloh, a gigantic red mark has appeared over my red arm and a part of my neck. Do I mamesh have tz’raas? It’s hashkocha perotis that it was ‘Sazria -Metzoyroh’this week.
April 26, 2015 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm #1073725147ParticipantGo to a Kohen and let him determine your status. Coming to the coffee room shan’t solve your status.
April 26, 2015 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm #1073726Daniell11MemberI don’t think there’s such thing as tzaraas anymore mamashtov98 i don’t think there’s anything wrong
April 26, 2015 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #1073727147ParticipantThe Rabbi said in his speech yesterday, that Tzora’as can only occur in Israel, and you MameshhTov98 mentioned that yesterday was “sazria-Metrorah”, so by definition you MameshhTov98 must have been in the Disapora where Tzora’as cannot transpire, because if you had been in Israel, you would have been saying that yesterday was “Acharei-Mos-Kedoshim”.
April 26, 2015 4:49 pm at 4:49 pm #1073728ubiquitinParticipantWhats his mekor that tzaras can only occur in Israel?
Miriam had Tzaras in the midbar
April 26, 2015 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm #1073729DikDukDuckParticipantI have very many small bumps covering my upper arms with hair sticking out of them. I think they are called goosebumps.
April 26, 2015 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #1073730Miriam377ParticipantThat may have been because B’nei Yisroel did not enter Eretz Yisroel yet.
April 26, 2015 4:59 pm at 4:59 pm #1073731smile4lifeParticipantThe Rambam writes that it only occurs in Eretz Yisroel. Not sure about Miriam.
April 26, 2015 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #1073732TheGoqParticipantIsn’t there a leper colony in Hawaii?
April 26, 2015 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #1073733torahyidParticipantu couldnt have tzaraas u have to be the holiest type
April 26, 2015 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #1073734Patur Aval AssurParticipantWhere does the Rambam say that it only occurs in Israel? In Hilchos Tumas Tzara’as 11:6 he writes:
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The Sefer Hachinuch in Mitzva 169 writes:
??????? ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ?? ???? ????? ????”? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ?? ??? ???? ????? ???? ????? ??????? ??? ????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ?????? ?????? ???? ????
See also Berachos 5b:
?”? ????? ????? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ???”? ?? ?? ??? ??? ??? ???? ???? ?? ????? ?? ???????
??”? ??:
?? ?? ??? ???. ??”? ???? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ????
?????? ??:
?? ?? ??? ???. ??’ ??”? ???? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ??? ????? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ?? ??? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ???????? ????? ????? ????? ??? ???? ?’ ????? ???? ??? ??? ???? ????? ??”? ?? ?? ??? ??? ????? ????? ??????? ??”? ??? ????
The Maharsha there asks:
???”? ?? ?? ?? ??? ???’. ????”? ?????’ ??? ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ??”? ??????? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ?????? ????”? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ?? ????? ?? ??????
He therefore gives a different pshat in the Gemara. It should be noted though, that all these discussions are about whether the dinim are in effect, not whether it is possible to get tzara’as.
The question of why bizman hazeh we aren’t noheg the dinim has vexed several of the acharonim. R’ Yaakov Emden discusses it at length in She’ailas Yaavetz Siman 136, 137, and 138: http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1408&pgnum=131
The Tiferes Yisrael in his pesicha to Seder Kadshim discusses it and suggests that it’s because we only have ???? ???? nowadays:
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37947&st=&pgnum=36 (footnote ?)
R’ Menachem Kasher discusses it and suggests that one can only identify tzara’as if he had direct shimush from someone who showed him what it looks like:
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=51491&st=&pgnum=208&hilite=
April 26, 2015 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #1073735ubiquitinParticipantthanks PAA
April 26, 2015 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #1073736Sam2ParticipantTzara’as Batim only applies in Eretz Yisrael. Nothing to do with regular Tzara’as.
I always found it Pashut that it would take an incredible Middas Achzarius to declare someone a Metzorah Bizman HaZeh.
April 27, 2015 1:47 am at 1:47 am #1073737Little FroggieParticipantSilly peoplach… What color is a tzara’as??? Read OP.
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April 27, 2015 1:55 am at 1:55 am #1073738Rav TuvParticipantAnd this is going to help you or your children get a shidduch?
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