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  • #608453
    a mamin
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    Why is that no one has written anything about the horrific occurrences in the last few days? I’m not talking about those individuals who think they know the reasons…I’m looking for those who have chizuck to share with us.

    #935593
    wanderingchana
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    Maybe we need to get through the shock and denial first. It’s only been two days since we lost a beautiful couple and only a day since we lost the ray of hope that their baby would survive. We know everything is min Shamayim but it’s heartbreaking to even think about what happened and the pain the family must be feeling.

    #935594
    Chortkov
    Participant

    You have a question?

    #935595
    Oh Shreck!
    Participant

    It’s a valid question. And as wanderingchana wrote, sometimes we need to go through the stages of ????? ????, to stand back in humbled awe, stunned shock and grief, to contemplate the tragedy that befell all of Klal Yisroel (we’re all in this, together). Then there needs to be a time for each and every person saddened by this great calamity to better himself/herself in an area that requires ????, ammending, whether bein adam lamakom or bein adam l’chavero. Each person for himself, what he needs to fix. It’s when some come and tell you for this reason, for that reason, that is problematic (unless by one divinely inspired).

    So yes, every one should definitely take on kabalos, privately, after witnessing such a great heartbreaking tragedy.

    #935598
    a mamin
    Participant

    Oh Shreck: Thank you for your kind words…. I think it is the shock and sorrow that keeps creeping in my thoughts…It definitely warrants our introspection at this point…People say you don’t know what you have until its gone. Truth is you knew what you had, you just never thought you’d lose it. So I am trying to appreciate each moment…

    #935599
    simcha613
    Participant

    Sometimes there just isn’t anything to say…

    #935600
    Yserbius123
    Participant

    Because what’s to discuss? A terrible tragedy happened. If someone wants to start a Mishnayos initiative for the Niftarim, then gezunteh heit!

    #935601
    a mamin
    Participant

    I’ve found in the past many posts for different tragedies. Was wondering why this one was different in the eyes of the coffee room viewers…..I have my suspicions… but lets not go there.

    #935602
    oomis
    Participant

    All tragedies are terrible. We especially feel pain and anguish and grieve for two young people whose families lost their children AND grandchild in a terrible, awful, horrific moment.

    What do I take from this? That I need to hold my husband, children and grandchildren close to me, and never ever waste a moment or take for granted all that is good in my life from Hashem. It can be gone chas v’sholom in one terrifying, careless moment. Lo aleinu.

    For those who wish to look at this tragedy as a lesson to be more tzniusdig,to speak no loshon hara, do more chessed, whatever one chooses, those are all fine and worthy objectives. Right now, I just want to hug my baby grandson (and my other aineklach), thankful that I get to watch him every morning, and wish that the baby who was torn from his mother and father, even as they were torn from him, also was still alive and well and able to be held by his Bubbies and Zaydies, as well as his parents. This is really too painful to bear.

    #935603
    a mamin
    Participant

    Oomis: May you only see nachas from all your children and grandchildren till 120!

    #935605
    BYbychoice
    Member

    a mamin- i think sadly its just become “so common” we hear and we cry for them and try to fele the pain that our fellow brothers have. But in reality the world is growing and so is the Jewish population, and unfortuantly that means more tzaros,we barely have enought time to get over the last tragedy when teh new one occurs,its horrible what happend and terribely sad and i wish only comfort to the family

    #935606
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    I have an answer?

    #935607
    a mamin
    Participant

    My question was not why the tragedy happened or happens.. My question was, why there was no mention of it on this forum, where you can read about every silly occurrence.

    #935608
    shimmel
    Member

    A mamin,funny I was thinking the same thing. I have a strong hunch there might be a reason.

    #935609
    WIY
    Member

    a mamin

    It was all over the news site of YWN Im not sure what you want exactly? Everyone was talking about it everywhere a thread about it would be redundant.

    #935610
    PBT
    Member

    For myself it’s because I’m so sad about it that I don’t yet know what to say. All I can think is what a beautiful family was lost. Not living in New York I can’t pretend to know all the facts of why the murderer was allowed to be driving, etc., and beyond being immensely hurt I don’t know what else to say.

    #935611
    squeak
    Participant

    Why don’t you go ahead and tell us your suspicions and your hunches instead of being passive aggressive. We can handle it, and you clearly need to get it out of your system.

    #935612
    tzaddiq
    Member

    squeak – i have a feeling his hunches are best kept stored up inside. somethings are better not said than said.

    just a hunch.

    but seriously, i don’t think there was any reason at all this issue wasn’t brought up in a thread. it was more the sense of shock and pain and trauma that numbed our yiddishe minds and souls. we were not ignoring the issue, we were dumbfounded and overwhelmed with grief. ther was nothing to say but cry.

    may the families of this beautiful couple be comforted and should know of no more tzar.

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    #935613
    a mamin
    Participant

    amen!!

    #935614
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    A mamin, you clearly did not read the other topics. We had at least 2 topics about the tragedy, and several more tangentially related.

    #935615
    a mamin
    Participant

    when? not on Sunday or Monday. can you give me the name of the posts?

    #935616
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    A mamin:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/tinok-ben-raizel

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/the-accidents

    Both were posted AT LEAST 2 days before your first topic on this issue:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/so-hes-ready-to-turn-himself-in

    There are also lots of comments on the YW main page with the news article!

    Let’s be dan l’kaf zchus. Remember there are a lot of posts in other topics as well, and it’s easy to miss due to the high post volume lately.

    #935617
    WIY
    Member

    a mamin

    Wow looks like someones going to have to eat their hat….

    #935618
    a mamin
    Participant

    nope, I started one of them and the other two were very short, with hardly any posts.Sorry, I need my hats.

    #935619
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    Yours is only long because you started an argument about how no one else cares about the tragedy except you.

    #935620
    a mamin
    Participant

    I never said no one cares, except me. Where did you see that? I asked why no one was writing about it? I know there was an outpouring of many people, bot not on this site. I think we can close this thread. No purpose to dwell on it further. I got my answer.

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