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January 15, 2025 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm #2352830ParticipantParticipant
Don’t you dare say one *&!@ word about this war being a מלחמת מצוה.
Or for it being a “justified war”.
If you do, I will unleash the full extent of my fury, hunt you down and let my blood pressure loose.January 15, 2025 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #2352962☕️coffee addictParticipantOooh ooooh I’ll do it!
This war was a מלחמת מצוה
You’re Welcome
January 15, 2025 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #2352961GadolHadofiParticipantNo question, it was definitely a מלחמת מצוה.
Now, go have your well-earned aneurysm.
January 15, 2025 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #2352960yungermanSParticipantThis Israel-Hamas war is all part of Hashems plan towards Mashiach speedily coming BUT FIRST Hashem is waiting for our serious teshuva and Achdus together as one loving nation begging Hashem forgiveness and to start YEARNING FOR MASHIACH which we sadly are currently lacking while living in a world of pleasure and technology filled with physical pleasures.
YOU let Hashem our loving father and king of kings ruler of the world know when klal yisroel is doing their HISHTADLUS and showing Hashem our yearning for Mashiach already and Hashem already has Mashiach in this temporary physical world waiting on his white horse to do his mission and bring the geula shleima bkarov
January 15, 2025 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #2352935akupermaParticipantDon’t worry. As long as a majority of the politicians, judges and generals are persons of Jewish descent who reject Torah and Mitsvos, and who assert (and even sing about it the national anthem) that the goal of zionism is to free Jews from the yoke of Torah – no one would see the war as being a Milhemes Mitsvah. At some point, based on current demographic trends, Eretz Yisrael might have a government in which most of the leadership (of the government, the legal system and even the military) will be Bnei Torah, and the upper class hilonim will be fleeing since they don’t want to live in Jewish state – then the question will get interesting.
January 16, 2025 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #2353432ParticipantParticipant@mbachur I don’t know if you’re serious or goading, so please answer these questions:
1) Why was this war a milchemes mitzvah?
2) Do you support the surrender deal?January 17, 2025 8:31 am at 8:31 am #2353484Neville Chaimberlin Lo MesParticipant“I don’t know if you’re serious or goading, so please answer these questions:
1) Why was this war a milchemes mitzvah?
2) Do you support the surrender deal?”So, are we to assume you didn’t support the war, but that you also don’t support ending the war?
I’m not calling it a milchamas mitzvah, but what do you think the alternative was?
January 17, 2025 8:32 am at 8:32 am #2353493☕️coffee addictParticipantI was goading
You didn’t make any חילוק so I wanted to see “the full extent of your fury”
Im highly disappointed
January 19, 2025 8:22 am at 8:22 am #2353616SQUARE_ROOTParticipantDear Coffee Addict,
To intentionally and unnecessarily goad somebody is ONAAS DEVARIM,
which is a violation of Torah Law.To intentionally and unnecessarily goad somebody is also foolish,
because you do not know what the other person is capable of doing.Also, you do not know for sure that the person who you are goading
does not know who you are and never will know who you are.
People who make comments on the internet overestimate their anonymity.I hope this helps.
Sincerely,
SQUARE_ROOTJanuary 19, 2025 8:22 am at 8:22 am #2353626RebYid613Participant?
January 19, 2025 8:22 am at 8:22 am #2353630ParticipantParticipant@NCBLM
I don’t know if was a מלחמת מצוה or not [due to ignorance. Although I did attempt to study the topic, and leaned toward saying that it was a מלחמת מצוה, there are too many unknowns and lack of information to get clarity. Not that my opinion changes anything, anyway, continue reading.] I also think it was [=could have been] a “justified war”.
But I’m asking לשיטתם that it’s certainly a מלחמת מצוה, it’s the “most justified war Israel has ever fought.”
Their actions speak far louder than their memes.January 19, 2025 8:22 am at 8:22 am #2353798lbjParticipantThere is no such thing as a milchemet mitzvah without a Sanhedrin
There is no such thing as a milchemet mitzva when the army is full of kol davor Assur
And many are not Jewish
And many don’t say shema YisroelAre you ppl Jewish?. Helloooo
I’d like to join the hashmonaim brigade and hunt down these so called Jews.
January 19, 2025 8:22 am at 8:22 am #2353864anon1m0usParticipantI am sure you know, a milchemes mitzvah has nothing to do if one keeps the Torah or not.
January 19, 2025 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #2354053SQUARE_ROOTParticipantLBJ said:
“There is no such thing as a milchemet mitzvah without a Sanhedrin.”
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Could someone please tell us where this is written?
I might be wrong about this, but if I remember correctly
[and maybe I do not remember correctly], a Sanhedrin
is required for a non-defensive war [milchemet reshut].January 19, 2025 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm #2354080anon1m0usParticipantSquarearoot, you are right. People here think they are frum and know the Torah. Unfortunately, a lot of frum Jews today are ignorant of the Torah. The poster above seems to fall into that category of being ignorant.
January 19, 2025 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm #2354083Neville Chaimberlin Lo MesParticipant“I don’t know if was a מלחמת מצוה or not [due to ignorance. Although I did attempt to study the topic, and leaned toward saying that it was a מלחמת מצוה, there are too many unknowns and lack of information to get clarity. Not that my opinion changes anything, anyway, continue reading.] I also think it was [=could have been] a “justified war”.
But I’m asking לשיטתם that it’s certainly a מלחמת מצוה, it’s the “most justified war Israel has ever fought.”
Their actions speak far louder than their memes.”I’m legitimately a little confused then. It seemed like you were saying unequivocally in your first post that this was NOT a milchamas mitzvah or justified. You’re saying that it is, but others who agree that it is don’t actually mean it?
January 20, 2025 9:00 am at 9:00 am #2354143ZSKParticipantWho said Milchemet Mitzvah? Try literal Pikuach Nefesh.
January 20, 2025 9:01 am at 9:01 am #2354157mommamia22ParticipantAkuperman
Lhiot am chofshi does not mean free from the yoke of Torah, it means free from the yoke of other nations.
January 20, 2025 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #2354438ParticipantParticipant@NCBLM
I don’t know if it’s a מלחמת מצוה or not. I do know that many have called this war a מלחמת מצוה. And I say that I better not hear that anymore. Because this surrender move show beyond all doubt that this war is not being treated as a מלחמת מצוה.
So next time some MK calls it a מלחמת מצוה, or any of the Zionists on this forum who have also called it a מלחמת מצוה continue to do so*, my threat remains.
*Unless they at least admit that, though it is a מלחמת מצוה, the צבא הגנה לישמעלים isn’t treating it as such. That’s acceptable, too, and hence my 2nd question to coffee addict.
January 20, 2025 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #2354439ParticipantParticipantAdditionally, something I haven’t yet discussed: It seems obvious to me that being as how Israel is not treating it as a מלחמת מצוה, all arguments in support of a draft by the Israeli government have to be reanalyzed, treating this war not as a מלחמת מצוה, but as a war.
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