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Let’s say that you have a Shabbos guest who brings up this accursed holiday (in a favorable light).
Mind you, that the house is filled with pictures of the Chofetz Chaim, Maran HaRav Schach, the Chazon Ish, the Satmar Rebbe, the Brisker Rav…
The guest makes it clear that he considers this accursed day to be r”l a “holiday.” How does one respond without hurting the guest’s feelings while at the same time standing up for kavod hatorah by criticizing those who are violating the Torah?
My rebbe in high school quoted his rebbe, Rav Aaron Soloveichik [sp?], who pointed out that Yom Haatzmaut does not conform with the normal way we make holidays. In all other holidays, we do not celebrate the war or the ability to fight, but we celebrate the next day when we could resume a Torah life in peace. Yom Haatzmaut was the changing of the flags, but not the end of the war. It just started a war with several Arab states. Nothing to celebrate.
You could also say that Yom Haatzmaut marks the end of the Shalosh Shivuot. If they accept that, then they are accepting that the Sh”Sh are/were Lemaaseh before Yom Haatzmaut.
My rebbe in high school quoted his rebbe, Rav Aaron Soloveichik [sp?], who pointed out that Yom Haatzmaut does not conform with the normal way we make holidays. In all other holidays, we do not celebrate the war or the ability to fight, but we celebrate the next day when we could resume a Torah life in peace. Yom Haatzmaut was the changing of the flags, but not the end of the war. It just started a war with several Arab states. Nothing to celebrate.
You could also say that Yom Haatzmaut marks the end of the Shalosh Shivuot. If they accept that, then they are accepting that the Sh”Sh are/were Lemaaseh before Yom Haatzmaut.
He has not violated the Torah at all, so why would you embarrass him?
Anytime someone brings up a topic that you disagree with,you change the topic.
There is no reason to embarass someone. Simply change the topic
And this can be used for any topic like alternative lifestyles, IDF , Kollel etc
Youmention Harav Shach–Did you know he did not say tachnun on that day?
That is not accurate regarding Rav Shach.
The Chazon Ish even said Tachanun even if there was a bris in his shul on you ha’atzmut, even though normally he wouldn’t when there’s a bris.
Joseph is correct. The Ponovezher Rav zt”l didn’t say tachnun, and set that as the rule in the yeshiva. R’ Shach zt”l was poresh from the entire yeshiva, and he sat down as said tachnun. When he became the Rosh Yeshiva, I believe he changed the minhag there to say tachnun.
Doesnt sound like you are interested in discussing anything with your guest, or anyone else. I’m not sure your guest wants to be preached to, I certainly dont. I’m out of this “discussion”.
This holds true for any topic. If you can not discuss it without resorting to embarrassing the other person, you are not qualified to discuss it.
If it happened, it was ratzon HKB”H.
If someone eats chazzir, was it ratzon HKB”H?
ratzon hashem discussion:
if someone eats a ham sandwich and finishes it with enjoyment, he cannot say “if Hashem did not want me to eat it, he would have startled me suddenly and it would have dropped to the floor. Therefore this act was ratzon HaShem.” How stupid this person woujld be.
BUT: anyone who reads any of the dozens of books written by participants – or historians – about the years of activity that preceded the creation of the state of Israel, [one of my favorites was “The Pledge” by Leonard Slater] must be astounded and mesmerized by the amazing “coincidents” and near miracles that combined in forming a state with almost no planes, no tanks, etc. vs. a gang of armies with air forces and tanks and well-armed soldiers. If HaShem had not wanted this state to be fashioned, all He had to do is let nature take it course.
The real QUESTION IS: WHY DID HE ALLOW IT TO OCCUR AND HELP IT ALONG WITH SO MANY “MINOR” MIRACLES? I can only surmise that he expected frum Jews to flock there in the thousands and turn it into a frum country! the problem is with OUR RATZON!!
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