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March 19, 2019 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #1698823
Is it just learning a lot? What does it take to become a Gadol? Like, being a Talmid Chochom isn’t enough, what else is required? Does a Gadol need to be Litvish, or can he also be a Sefardi, a Yekka, a Chabad? Does he need a beard? Does he need to wear certain clothes (an up hat, a Borsalino, a long jacket, talis kotton over his shirt)? Does he need a yeshiva or a rabbonus or a kollel? And at what point is he officially a Gadol – when appointed to Moetzes? How does one become a Gadol?!
March 19, 2019 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm #1698906Sam KleinParticipantRemove yourself COMPLETELY from all physical pleasures and desires and devote yourself to Hashem and Torah.
Build for yourself a life COMPLETELY %100 in bitachon and Emunah depending on Hashem alone. Not on rebbes, segulas and doctors etc…. They are the middlemen Gedolim go Directly to Hashem for help
Hatzlacha Rabba
March 19, 2019 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm #1698919JosephParticipantMarch 19, 2019 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm #1698931Anyusernameopen?ParticipantSam
pls explain the dif between a rebbe and a gadol
Why is one a middleman and one goes Directly to HashemUnless I misunderstood what you wrote
March 19, 2019 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm #1698940Sam KleinParticipantAnon
I said YOU a person looking to become a future Gadol Hador. Should go straight to Hashem for help and not any middleman rather it’s a gadol or Rebbe or your local guides you turn to for life advice.
Problem difference with rebbes that doesn’t apply to Gedolim is that some chassidim push it too far and treat their Rebbe like a g-d. We won’t mention which kinds of chassidusis you can think about it and maybe you can figure it out on your own
March 19, 2019 11:38 pm at 11:38 pm #1698953GadolhadorahParticipantI am available for consultations by appointment. Generally Tuesday mornings and Thursday afternoons work best.
March 19, 2019 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #1698954knaidlachParticipantv’ohavta leraiacha komocha rabi akiva omer zeh klal GADOL batorah. ahavas yisroel makes you a GADOL.
March 19, 2019 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm #1698957knaidlachParticipanta yid should utilize all the kochos that Hashem gave him. Hashem gave each one the exact amount of kochos he needs to fulfill his mission in this world. not more and not less. if one utilizes all his kochos to the fullest, he is a godol. there is no mitsva to become a rosh yeshiva, a rov, a famouse askan etc. but one is required to become what he can become.
March 19, 2019 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm #1698959BenephraimParticipantA Gadol is generally recognized by Agudas Yisrael. אפילו כולנו חכמים etc. but it is in the hands of the Agudah. For example, REC was told by Reb Aharon that he knew Nashim and Nezikin well. He was the best in the Mir. But the Agudah passed him over.
March 20, 2019 12:18 am at 12:18 am #1698974JosephParticipantWho is REC?
Now that Rav Brudny assumed Rav Berenbaum’s seat on the Moetzes for Mir, who will assume Rav Pam’s seat on the Moetzes for Torah Vodass? It seems Rav Reisman is on the way there.
March 20, 2019 12:20 am at 12:20 am #1698969Anyusernameopen?Participant“Problem difference with rebbes that doesn’t apply to Gedolim is that some chassidim push it too far and treat their Rebbe like a g-d. We won’t mention which kinds of chassidusis you can think about it and maybe you can figure it out on your own”
Where’d this come from?
It’s funny how every single thread end up with the same things and it comes from right field (rebitzen might argue and say left:)) .
did you really have to make this comment?I was asking something totally diff. Which u happened to answer nicely in the first paragraph
March 20, 2019 9:04 am at 9:04 am #1698987It is Time for TruthParticipantRav Berenbaum was never on the Moetzes
He kept his distanceMarch 20, 2019 9:05 am at 9:05 am #1698988It is Time for TruthParticipantThe ‘Job’ of Gadol is primarily Carry the world on his shoulders and Pull It Forward
The job of Rebbe is to carry yidden in the present
March 20, 2019 9:08 am at 9:08 am #1699057Reb EliezerParticipantWhen one follows the the mishna in the beginning of the 4th Perek of Pirkei Avos who is rich, strong, smart, and respected as described there is considered a Gadol.
March 20, 2019 9:25 am at 9:25 am #1699088LerntminTayrahParticipantThe Steipler says in a letter to learn 12 hours a day for years. Once you do that fir a few years you will find your unique hadracha and become a gadol.
March 20, 2019 9:25 am at 9:25 am #1699089lakewhutParticipantRead making of a godol?
March 20, 2019 10:19 am at 10:19 am #1699185My husband learns ans dedicates himself ro Hashem. I guess he is on his way to becoming a Gadol. Which will make me Rebbitzen Golden Godal. Someone needs to put out a sefer on How to Become A Gadol In 100 Days.
March 20, 2019 10:27 am at 10:27 am #1699190midwesternerParticipantWould assume the REC is Rav Elya Chazan?
There is no specific seat for any specific yeshiva. Never was. Mir did not have anyone on the Moetzes after Rav Avrohom Kalmanovitz was nifter until Rav Elya Brudny. Not R Shmuel B, and not R SM Kalmanovitz. Philly had both R Elya and R Shmuel for a decent period of time. Was R Yisroel Belsky ever on the Moetzes? Don’t think so. Telz always had someone, but not since R Chaim Stein was nifter, unless you count R AC Levin in Chicago. But he was on together with R Chaim for many years, so that would shlug up the sevara anyway. And now he’s gone, so how many slots does Telz get, and who gets them?
March 20, 2019 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm #1699436WHat are the “levels of a Gadol?
“Gadol HaDor” sounds like the top Gadol. But then there could be hundreds or even thousands of Gadol! Is there a maximum amount of Gadols?!
Is there a “How To” to become a Gadol?
Cna woman be a Gedola (or just an Isha Chashuva)?
March 22, 2019 9:53 am at 9:53 am #1699710LerntminTayrahParticipantThere’s a mishna in pirkei avos that lists 48 ways to acquire Torah. Follow that mishna
March 23, 2019 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #1699997takahmamashParticipantFirst thing you have to do is get off the internet.
March 23, 2019 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm #1700028ChossidParticipantAt what point are considered a godol? Boki beshas? Have a following?
Why should one strive to become a godol?
Shouldn’t we just strive to become an oivid Hashem?
Should teacher our children and students to learn to become a godol betorah, or learn because it’s Hashems Torah?March 23, 2019 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm #1700051BenephraimParticipantYou can be on the MGT and off as well. Like RJBS. But it seems that no Rabbonim are GT. Even though they know Shad like RAR. Years ago the RY were secondary. Today they are primary.
March 23, 2019 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #1700058justme22ParticipantThere are tremendous talmidim chachamim who learn most of the day for year and who are very adeherant to Halacha and are not gedolim. It’s seems that gedolim don’t only accomplish in torah but in addition they feel pain for the pain of the klal, they can listen to Jews of all types and their pains and are always fully heathy into the tzibur.
Gedolim are made day by day and not over night by always seeking to do ,to help and in most gassed to learn.
Let’s not forget that “gadol” is a label there can be many gedolim that we will never even know about.March 31, 2019 2:16 am at 2:16 am #1705197So now that we know how to become a Godol, can a woman be a Gedolah (or is she regulated to simply being an “aishes chover” or an “isha chashuva”)?
March 31, 2019 2:38 am at 2:38 am #1705233Here is a situation: a child (koton) becomes a Godol hador.
April 4, 2019 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm #1709393Reb EliezerParticipantThere was a woman revered the Aishes Sma.
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