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January 23, 2013 3:14 pm at 3:14 pm #607917Baal BooseParticipant
This seems to be a topic that is never discussed and is hard to inquire.
3) How much do you prepare for tomorrow? Schedule, keys, pockets,
4) Do you read to bed, radio/music, talk to your spouse or text friends, eat nash, or Hamapil and silent? (one person told me he thinks mishnayos by heart)
5) Do you think this effects success and siyate dshmaye?
January 23, 2013 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #924362Hatzlacha in improving your bedtime avoda.
January 23, 2013 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm #924363Baal BooseParticipantThanks but i wasnt looking for broches, rather i was looking for input.
What are your procedures? what are you rituals, and how do you prepare for bed?
Also, how important is all this and in what way?
( I know everything is important, but is this more or is it less important than other things?)
January 23, 2013 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #924364rebdonielMember“Doing the daf” is not necessarily an admirable goal. If you take an hour or two each day to learn with Rashi, at the minimum, than you are having quality learning. Davening a daf in 45 minutes is not a valuable religious activity.
I do say the full Krias Shema al ha Mita, vidui, a final cheshbon hanefesh of the day, prepare negel vasser to keep bedside, keep tzitzis and kippah next to the bed, etc.
January 23, 2013 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #924366snowbunny3318MemberI know that if I say haMapil and bedtime shema that I won’t actually stay silent and will end up going to the bathroom/ eating nosh/ using my computer/ texting, so I don’t really do much Jewish bed time rituals…
January 23, 2013 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #924367Baal BooseParticipantReb Doniel;
Good point on the daf. I didnt realize it was so bad. I thought joining the daf shiur before minyan was a good thing. Maybe i”ll just say 5 thingies of T’hillim instead.
On the sleeping issue; do you read in bed? Glass of tea?
Do you say Shma in bed or before?
Thanks.
January 24, 2013 2:37 am at 2:37 am #924368YITZCHOK2ParticipantRebdoniel- When you make your “chesbon Hanefesh” tonight think about all the ziknei Hador of the past 50 years who spoke about how choshuvh the 45 minutes of a day that a person gives up for the daf is. I doubt you will sleep much tonight as you figure out how to ask mehcila from the gedolim. I doubt someone of your great stature would bother to ask mechilla from the plain folk who are mosser nefesh for the 45 minutes Daf – so for now just ask mechila from the gedolim.
January 25, 2013 3:57 am at 3:57 am #924372Baal BooseParticipantSnow;
i know exactly what you mean.
its like so final and like totally giving myself over, or like i’m dead?
I’m going to have to try it anyways.
January 25, 2013 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #924374YW Moderator-42ModeratorAfter tikkun chatzos, I read the CR until Alos. ^_^
January 25, 2013 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #924375147Participant3) How much do you prepare for tomorrow? Schedule, keys, pockets,
I always prepare my clothing for next day before going to sleep, so that in the morning, I never arrive late to Shul Chas veSholom. BTW, the definition of arriving in time to Shacharis is being at least 5 minutes early, so that I am clad in Tallis & Tefillin before the Cantor commences services.
Of-course I also schedule time to talk with my spouse at nite, or to quote Hilary Clinton:- A am there at 3AM for my spouse.
January 26, 2013 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm #924376takahmamashParticipantBTW, the definition of arriving in time to Shacharis is being at least 5 minutes early, so that I am clad in Tallis & Tefillin before the Cantor commences services.
Our davening starts with “Rabi Yishmoel omer,” so arriving on time means getting there 17 minutes early so I can put on my tallit and tefillin, and I can say brachot and most of karbanot. As someone in the CR once said, “Having the karbanot in the siddur is not a printing error.”
January 27, 2013 2:58 am at 2:58 am #924377YW Moderator-42ModeratorDuring the 30 days before Purim there is a minhag to say parshas Haman every day so make that a few minutes earlier.
January 27, 2013 4:27 am at 4:27 am #924378JustHavingFunParticipantShema in bed. I’m an insomniac so I read, listen to the radio or play with my iPhone (new: still an amazingly interesting toy) while waiting to fall asleep while DH slumbers peacefully, lights on, sound on, sirens wailing — oh that’s outside.
January 27, 2013 5:53 am at 5:53 am #924379rebdonielMemberI didn’t mean to insult anyone.
The main inyan of daf yomi, in my humble opinion, is that there is the achdus of klal yisroel learning the same thing on the same day. I am just speaking from my personal experience- I felt that in 45 minutes, I didn’t really make a kinyan b’torah at the end of it all. What I do now, because this works better for me, is in a week’s time, I learn 2-3 blatt gemara with Rashi, Tosafos, Rambam, and now, the “iyun kal” perush of Shas Illuminated.
You should do whatever floats your boat. A person should learn what interests him.
Please do not allow me to discourage you. Continue shteiging and being moser nefesh for the sake of limud hatorah.
January 27, 2013 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #924380147Participanttakahmamash:- So your time of arrival is being predicated on what is done in many places in Israel, whilst the time of arrival I mentioned is predicated on what most places do in the diaspora.
January 27, 2013 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm #924381ShiraTobalaMembersay krias shima b4 you go to sleep
January 28, 2013 12:25 am at 12:25 am #924382rationalfrummieMemberRebDoniel: Thank you for that clarification. There is an unresolved machlokes in the gemara about whether be’iyun or bekius learning is better. That said, I think there is definitely a lot of merit to your derech halimmud, Shkoyach!
January 28, 2013 4:27 am at 4:27 am #924383rebdonielMemberThank you.
In Horayos 14, the maskana is that sinai has precedence over oker harim. Le ma’aseh, since I go to school and work, I only have 4 hours a day to learn, and I prioritize learning halakha le ma’aseh (in the form of Mishna Berura, Kitzur, and Hakham Ovadia Yosef), Shulchan Aruch and nosei kelim, Gemara with Rashi, Tosfos, and Rambam, Mishnayos, Tanach, Midrash, Halakhic Midrashim, important parshanim and darshanim, important sifrei mussar and machshava, etc. I generally am a big fan of the Dirshu, Reb Sender Dolgin, Breslov, R’ Shimon Green, and Reb Meir Pogrow approach to learning. I also hear that an emphasis on bekius is a generally Sephardic approach, historically.
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