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May 27, 2015 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #615739takahmamashParticipant
It got to 109 degrees where I live today. I’ve never been in heat like that, not even the one time I was in Las Vegas. Tonight we had a thunderstorm, complete with heavy rain for 5 minutes.
My daughter in Beersheva told me that it was 111 degrees down there today.
Another daughter in Yerushalayim tells me it’s drizzling there right now.
Oy!
May 27, 2015 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #1083170GoldilocksParticipantWhere do you live?
May 27, 2015 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #1083171WolfishMusingsParticipantWow. That’s hot. 111 degrees to you Israelis is 231.8 degrees to the us in the non-metric world. 🙂
Keep cool!
The Wolf
May 27, 2015 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #1083172BarryLS1ParticipantDespite the heat, we didn’t need air conditioning before 5 p.m. Our house was cool thanks to the way our houses were built.
May 27, 2015 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #1083173takahmamashParticipantGoldilocks: We live in the Shomron.
Wolf: Thanks – I already pre-translated the numbers into Fahrenheit for the majority audience. I should have added the “F” after the numbers. 😉
May 27, 2015 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #1083174YW Moderator-42ModeratorI was once in 120+ degrees. But it was a dry heat 🙂
How were your houses built that they don’t need AC?
May 28, 2015 12:55 am at 12:55 am #1083175147ParticipantWith Shelach Lecho just 2 weeks away, it is so absolutely critical not to say anything about Eretz Yisroel which could even possibly remotely be construed as Loshon hoRo.
Eretz Yisroel is such a wonderful place!!!
May 28, 2015 1:04 am at 1:04 am #1083176☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantEretz Yisroel is such a wonderful place!!!
It really is. What a shame the zionist reshoim are running it.
May 28, 2015 3:18 am at 3:18 am #1083177Matan1Participant147:
1) But if were 3 weeks away it would be okay?
2) Complaining about heat is in no way lashon hara.
3) You do understand that the order of when we read the parshiot is pretty arbitrary, right?
May 28, 2015 3:24 am at 3:24 am #1083178147ParticipantSince the Zionist have opened up Eretz Yisroel to all Jews, we all have to be Makir Tov to them.
Such mode of conduct is antitheses of what Reshoim would do.
May 28, 2015 3:30 am at 3:30 am #1083179☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSuch mode of conduct is antitheses of what Reshoim would do.
You’re saying that doing aveiros is the antithesis of what reshoim would do?
May 28, 2015 3:34 am at 3:34 am #1083180catch yourselfParticipantSo if someone else was running the country it wouldn’t be so hot?
May 28, 2015 3:40 am at 3:40 am #1083181147ParticipantI remind you DasYochid of WW2 when many members of my family tragically had nowhere to escape to.
Since Iyyor 5th 5708, all this changed literally overnight, & since then:- B’H no Jew has to be relegated to being a wondering Jew, as all we Jews are welcome with open arms to Eretz Yisroel.
May 28, 2015 4:57 am at 4:57 am #1083182american_yerushalmiParticipantEven if you want to “entitle everyone to their own opinion” (which is often questionable), why does a chareidi website not espouse the daas Torah outlook? For the record, the opinion of the Gedolei Torah is that we don’t have to “be thankful” to reshoim even for something “good” that they might have done. Generally, the evil and destruction they have perpetrated outweighs anything good they might have done. The Brisker Rav told people that saying the truth (about what the reshoim are doing in E.Y.) is permitted and doesn’t constitute “dibas ha’aretz.” And 147, what exactly changed “overnight” on the 5th of Iyar? Zero changed on that day, except (according to the words of the Chazon Ish reported by some) “the day Hordus (Herod) seized control of the country.” You are commemorating the outbreak of a war that has not ended to this day. It would make more sense to celebrate the day they signed an armistice with the Arab states in 1949. But 5th of Iyar? And before you sing the praises of the reshoim whom you think provided a “safe haven” for the wretched Jews of Europe, don’t forget that “one cow in Palestine (E.Y) was (considered) worth more than all the Jews of Europe.” Jews got into E.Y. despite the zionists, not because of them.
Regarding the weather, the Chafetz Chaim brings a statement from the Ben Ish Chai who says one shouldn’t criticize the weather in E.Y. and that this could be a form of “dibas ha’aretz.”
May 28, 2015 7:46 am at 7:46 am #1083183BarryLS1ParticipantYW Moderator-42: It’s not that we don’t need air condition. Our houses are built with poured concrete. It retains cold and heat. The fact that previous days were relatively cool and comfortable, the house retains that temperature a long time, so we didn’t need air conditioning until late in the afternoon.
The converse side of it is that in the winter, when it’s 40 degrees F outside, we often need heat, or we can go outside to warm up. It feel about as cold indoors as when the States have 20 degrees outside.
May 28, 2015 10:21 am at 10:21 am #1083184akupermaParticipantIn response to “Since the Zionist have opened up Eretz Yisroel to all Jews” but they closed it to hareidim. Under the British and the Turks Jews were exempt from conscription (except for one year, when the Turkish Empire was collapsing and they tried to draft Jews and Arabs, neither of whom were at all cooperative). While the zionists have exempted most hareidim under the pretense they were learning full time (a legal fiction in many cases, but one that avoided a confrontation), that is now ending.
May 28, 2015 10:55 am at 10:55 am #1083185☕️coffee addictParticipant3) You do understand that the order of when we read the parshiot is pretty arbitrary, right?
yes however shelach was what started the mourning of tiisha b’av which the three weeks starts in a month
May 28, 2015 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #1083186gavra_at_workParticipantakuperma – It is the Charaidim’s fault that they are being drafted. The state has no intention of drafting Arabs, and for good reason! If the Charaidim would treat the state like the Arabs treat the State, then they would not be drafted either. The problem is that the Charaidim are “Posach al Stei Seifim” regarding Zionism, and they have none other than themselves to blame.
May 28, 2015 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #1083187☕️coffee addictParticipantgaw,
are you saying the chareidim should go blow up shopping centers?
you really think the israeli arabs don’t take money from the medinah? if the palestinains do it why can’t they?
May 28, 2015 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #1083188Little FroggieParticipantThank you, american_yerushalmi. I’ve grown tired of counter posting sechel every time these comments (from the same posters) pop up.
(DY – you started it!!)
May 28, 2015 3:30 pm at 3:30 pm #1083189gavra_at_workParticipantcoffee addict – They should be open to their opposition to the state and its institutions (similar to Brisk or Eidah Charaidis), and not join governments that do not implement a full-blown Halachic State (Lishitasom), just like the Arabs who do not join the government because it is a “Jewish” state (and they believe it should be a non-denominational state).
Taking their money is one (large) step in the ability of the government to coerce the Charaidim to be in the army. If all Charaidim would be like the Briskers, we would not be having this discussion.
May 28, 2015 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #1083190gavra_at_workParticipantamerican_yerushalmi – Whose Da’as Torah? Rav Kook and Rav Solivetchik? Or Rav Solivetchik and Rav Karlitz? Or maybe Rav Yosef?
There are so many opinions of Gedolei Yisroel, one can safely hold almost anything regarding the Medinah and still be following “Daas Torah”.
That all being said, I would argue that YWN is not “Charaidi”, but “Yeshivish”, and yes they are very different. Part of that difference is the attitude towards “Daas Torah”.
May 28, 2015 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #1083191takahmamashParticipantMods, please close the thread. When I opened this thread, it was about the hot weather. All of a sudden it was hijacked into a vicious debate over Zionism.
Perhaps, one day, some of the posters here will learn that just because they can say something, doesn’t mean they should.
Again, mods, please close this down.
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