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Hi, I like this forum but I had some issues with it. So I took some time to work on myself (on compassion/ Ahavas Yisrael as well as internet addiction) and now I’m back. I hope I’ll be able to handle insults to my Rebbe more effectively as I do G-d’s work.
To fix the issues I propose that a general sincere Machaa be made here in the opening post against any bizayon of true Talmidei Chachamim (not necessarily Chabad) so I don’t need to take up post after post with that.
And my time is valuable (as is every Jews), and since I have limited internet time, I propose to give what comes across as a serious question priority. I won’t pressure myself to keep up with 100 posts at a time, but I will go in order. So if your question is skipped, maybe rephrase it more sincerely because I hate wasting time.
That being said please feel free to ask all your serious concerns about Chabad or questions about The Rebbe and Moshiach (I’m not here to tell you how to wash negel vasser). Some concerns from 5 years ago were taken on board and I have done my bit to correct some issues internally.
Yours truly,
Chabad ShluchaPs. If an answer to ANOTHER person’s question confuses you, it’s likely because you don’t have background info/ education etc that the other person has.
Good luck to all of us in bringing Moshiach quicker than the last ketz because whoever doesn’t experience personal geula by then is likely to feel like a real lame duck eternally.
Do you consider another Yid who believes that the Bobover Rebbe is Moshiach or that Rav Shach is Moshiach or that Rav Malkiel Kotler is Moshiach, to be as legitimate and valid a position as a Lubavitcher’s belief that the Lubavitch Rebbe is Moshiach?
Welcome back,
likewise feel free to ask me any questions about Bobov and its RebbehHi. Welcome back.
I have some questions regarding the Lubavitche beliefs
1. Do you believe the rebbe runs the world?
2. Do you pray to the rebbe?
3. Do you believe the rebbe is physically alive?does chabad teach their girls to be rabbis?
Hey, CS, I recently had my third coming as well. Also, apparently I’m a Chabad Meshichist nowadays according to some of the posters on here.
How long is this one going to go for before it’s shut down
Any guesses?
Is is just a coincidence that this thread gets posted the day after the Court sentencing of six ehrliche chabad “developers” who were arrested in an attempt to dig a tunnel into 770 to expand its capacity? Just seems a bit strange.
You didn’t answer philosopher’s questions.
Just saying…@CoffeeAddict
Too longThis Misnagid says welcome and so long in advance for your short stay.
I won’t chase you away nor encourage you extend your time in the CR.I will relay an anecdote:
Members of the CR are aware that I have married again and moved to NY this year.
This month, this month an older brother was. niftar and I sat Shivah with minyanim in my new home.Every shul Rabbi in town came to be Menachem Avel during the course of the week which was quite a zchus.
The Chabad shul Rabbi (who the new Mrs. Has known well for 20+ years and had a brocha under our Chupah) came on day 6. During our conversation he asked why I have yet to daven, even once, in his shul. I explained that when he removed the Melech HaMoshiach banners and pictures of the Rebbe from the Beis Knesset I would be happy to do so.
I have nothing against the Rebbe, he was a great tzaddik. I had the Zhus to meet him a few times including a private audience almost 50 years ago where I received a brocha leading to the birth of my b’chor; but davening with the portrait of any human hanging in the Beis Knesset smacks of idolatry to me.
The local Rabbi whispers to me that he’d like to remove the banners and picture and place them in the shul lobby but his funding source would dry up.Feel free to delete your account any time you’d like. Your mission was done before you even started. Please try to proselytize elsewhere on whatever chats you have created by your own ANASH.
CS, my questions are not deep. The answers are either yes or no. But you, like the other Lubavitchers on NEVER answer my simple questions because it brings to light that you are avodah zora worshippers.
Hi CS,
I would also encourage you to answer Philosophers question. Based on my recollection of what you wrote on the subject a few years ago I have a pretty good Idea where you stand on this. However, it may be worthwhile for you to respond to this question again because it represents a perception held by a (seemingly not insignificant) number of Yiddin outside the Chabbad community.
Here is a simple question: why is it that in almost every single picture of rabbi shneerson that shows him wearing tfillin do the tfillin shel rosh droop well below his hair line and on to his forehead?
Did they delete some of the questions? It seemed like CS was kind of talking to nobody for most of those posts. Also, why didn’t she just say the others that UJM asked about are not ben Dovid (I actually have no idea whether or not they are)? The whole humility/Steve Witkoff drasha made no sense.
CTL: Didn’t you live in a small town with almost no frum community before moving to NY? (Not insulting it, by the way, just going by what you’ve said in the past). It seems highly unusual that a Chabad in an area like that which is functioning solely for kiruv purposes would be so openly meshichist.
Here is my question for you, is Elvis still alive?
this is actually pretty funny
and CS, as a girl do you learn the relevant gemaras etc. ? thats what I meant
@Neville
I am talking about NY
I did not daven in my small CT town Chabad but they had the banners and picture in the lobby, not shulCommon Saychel; No one seriously holds that Elvis is moishiach. Nor are any of the other chassidus nominating their rebbeim as candidates. As others have noted, the true hard-core moishichits within chabad are not really mainstream.
I have my questions for CS but I can’t even start reading the vile things people are writing here. Who gave you reshus to talk like this about other Yidden, whatever their issues are.
To xCTL, I heard a similar sentiment that the previous rav transferred the shul to the new rav under conditions that the banner stays.
technically, if you consider them apikorsim there is no issur of loshon hora
Interesting thought, I’ve never heard of someone who converted to meshichism. When the only people who believe in an ideology were brainwashed from youth, it tells you something.
@Gadol, not saying he is moishiach, just that he is as alive as the Rebbe is
CS:
As you openly admit, above, that you would consider it an illegitimate and invalid position if any other Yid held that their Rebbe or Rov or Rosh Yeshiva (whether currently among the living or not) is Moshiach, why then are you upset or disappointed or angry when others consider who you believe to be Moshiach to be an illegitimate and invalid position?
CS:
Do you have any response to my follow up question (or not)?
“they’re pretty close minded unfortunately. But they have the same sources as I do so I’m hoping they’ll actually learn how to read and think critically like me”
Maybe it’s the reverse.
CS, you realize that those answers are vague
“Instead of Hashem”
That wasn’t qualified. Sounds like you might think c”v he is Hashem.“Again PB TANYA”
Please explain if that changes the simple meaning of what you said.“Yes and no. Depends what planet you live on”
We are on Planet Earth. Now please answer the question.
CS,
You write:
“1. Do you believe the rebbe runs the world? As in instead of Hashem? No cvs. Perek Beis Tanya from the Baal HaTanya can explain further”Why do you speaking ask ” As in instead of Hashem?”? That seems to be subterfuge to direct away from the question which should have a simple yes or no answer. Because you can believe the rebbe runs the world “with Hashem” too. I will rephrase my question. Do you believe the rebbe runs the world in any way?
I have read chapter beis of the Tanya and I see no reference to the topic of “rebbes running the world” . The chaper speaks about the souls of Jews, how we connect to Hashem, and that “lowly Jews” can connect to Hashem through tzaddikim OF THEIR GENERATION. Which actually begs the question of how Chabad can ignore the teachings of their holy rebbe to connect to a tzaddik of THEIR GENERATION. This is one of the reasons why Chabad needs their rebbe to be physically alive in this generation which they claim he is…
CS,
You write:
“2. Do you pray to the rebbe? I do what all frum Jews, daven to Hashem and ask my Rebbe for assistance via brachos etc. Again PB TANYA”I’m honestly happy to hear that.
You write:
“3. Do you believe the rebbe is physically alive? Yes and no. Depends what planet you live on”That is not an answer and you know it.
@CS
Your logic about a picture being okay, but not on the eastern wall is faulty.
When I end my Kaddish, I back up three steps and end up praying to the south, east and then north. In Kabbalah Shabbat I turn to the west to welcome the Sabbath Bride I. The final stanzas of Lechs Dodi.CS:
Did the Rebbe trim his beard before marrying?
Why didn’t the Rebbe have children?
How come the Rebbitzin didn’t wear a sheitl but the Rebbe encouraged all Lubavitch women to do so? How come everyone lies when asked?
Why does one half of ChaBaD hold by the later year sichos and the other says they shouldn’t have been released or are inventions by the chassidim?
How come we constantly talk about achdus but yet the politics of the shluchim are the biggest cases of sinas Yisrael I’ve ever seen.
Why did official (Krinsky, Kunin, Kalartsky) Chabad all the sudden become Zionists after Oct 07? It’s funny because Kehos /SIE conveniently left out the entire beginning of kuntres u’maayan in the English volumes haha, I guess only part of the Rebbe RaShaBs points were important.
Thank you,
A concerned Lubavitcher
Another question: you wrote “You won’t believe it but most of Lubavitch is more infected with Amalek on this topic”.
Which beliefs do some fellow Lubavitchers have which, in your opinion, are caused by being infected with Amalek?
I also really like you had to remind us you are a shlucha, I’m pretty sure the Rebbe told us in the later year sichos that shlichus extends outside of Merkos and even ChaBaD. (Unless that was an anti aguch fabrication as well). You should also refer to besuras hageulah where the Rebbe makes clear the work of the shluchim has been completed (perhaps another fabrication lol)
This is a message lost on the ears of every single shliach I meet. The gaavah in this is ridiculous as I see Anashim disparaged all the time for not going into shlichus. Every tomim bochur is encouraged to be a shliach as being mere anashim is second rate.
Every yid on this forum is a shliach for HaShem.
“this geula is not just for Lubavitchers by Lubavitch, but here for the average joe.”
CS: Do you mean, by this, that the average Joe is on a lower level than Lubavitchers? (But even so, they’ll still get the geula.)
Otherwise, why did you find it necessary to point out that non-Lubavitchers will get the geula?
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