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oiy- squeak, oomis- you make it sound like I had an obusive childhood
OY VAVOY – chas v’sholom! Did your baby brother or sister make you feel unloved?????
Did the bullies at school pick on you???? Poor little Areivimzehlazeh – you must have been so stressed! And then you come HERE????? 😛
feivel: you forgot one thing… 40 posts on different threads, for the 1st page on your profile.$
oomis- younger sibling? how bout the “royal treatment” from older siblings. i would say “but I’m not that sensitive. I can hold my own.”- but then, that character is probably due to their bullying. So i should thank them- no?
yes you absolutely should thank me. I only bullied you for your good, to build up your character.
Oh gross. Just think about those poor people that gotta watch you do just that. Its so unladylike.
da
this is an area i wouldnt touch
you can probably think of all kinds of reasons like grasping thin objects, but most of the uses i can think of fall into the category of what i would call body hygiene…
think: skin, nose, ears, scabs, hangnails,between teeth, i wont go into further detail or other areas, sorry, supply the information yourself
The Chazon Ish says that someone who bites his nails cannot be an eider kedushin because its probable that he is Michalel Shabbos.(I think it was the Chazon Ish who said that, I satnd to be corrected)
i JUST NOW was listening to a Rabbi Miller tape (no coincidence of course)
wherein he mentions that the fingernails are the perfect instruments for peeling an orange
i would add also HB eggs and starting a banana peel
I had tried for years and years and nothing worked – then i read one of these yiddish mussar things, maybe – tzettel katan – and it said that eating nails is like eating ‘nevaila’ – that did it for me – uuuugh! Helpful hint is keeping one of those big emery boards in every room, so that if there is a tempting little hanging culprit, you can emery it right off. I keep my nails short, and i have been able to maintain b”h.
also we have combs now for this but imagine 100 years ago, trying to remove lice nits without fingernails
da: I have some ideas, but it depend how desperate you are,
they are in order of desperation.
1)Soak them in Batampte pickle juice (unless you like pickles)
2)put black tar under them (everytime you wanna bite.. you wont)
3)wear an swine flu mask (they come in many pleasant colors)
4)tape lollipops to each finger,(I would stick to same color)
5)when your Fleishig, coat then in cream cheese (vegetable seem to work better)
& when your milchig dip them in chicken fat (healthier?)
6)Introduce them to fungus, (I dont think you’ll ever want to bite them again)
Okay. Last week, I stopped biting my nails. I put on clear nail polish!! and told myself NO MORE BITING!
I was doing it, (with a little peeking here and there, but then I’d stop myself) until Rosh HaShana came. During davening, my fingers starting bothering me and my hand started going to my mouth. I kept on pushing myself back, but my fingers were rreally bothering me. (I can not explain this “bothering”. It is very weird…) I think I even got a piece of nail off on R”H R”L.
Shabbos, I kept on stopping myself. Then non Sunday, I just let it go and bit off my thumb nail. (It got pretty big over the week!)
This morning, I started again. More nail polish. But I don’t know what’s going to be. I’m trying to stop, but its crazy hard and I can’t seem to do it.
Someone, please give me a real eitzah! I really need some good advice…
By the way, if you read the above posts, I am (if you didn’t guess) the same “da” just with a space. (Yes, I am the one who started this ridiculous thread!)
there is a nail polish like substance you can buy
the slightest taste is extremely bitter
it is made to help people stop this habit
I didn’t read any of the other ideas but A) maybe fine yourself or have someone close to you fine you. Every time you bite your nails you have to pay yourself/them a big amount (not like a quarter cuz that wont help but like $10.00.) You might think twice about biting after that.
B)Cut your nails often so there is nothing to bite.
Good Luck!!!
80, you know any more info? You know where I can get it? You know how much it sells for? You know any real success stories? You know I have lots of questions?!
i havent done a thorough search but
check this out
http://www.amazon.com/Develop-10-Biting-Promotes-Growth/dp/B000Q0QRYC
read the reviews on this page
this one has a LOT of glowing reviews
http://www.amazon.com/Mavala-Stop-Nail-Biting-Sucking-Prevention/dp/B0000YUXI0/ref=pd_sim_bt_1
this stuff will DEFINITELY work
unless you decide to stop using it because you cant take the “pressure” of not biting your nails
but i imagine little by little that pressure will become very small or even vanish eventually
Thanks 80, your the greatest! I’ll check it out later.
d a, still have the problem?
Get a nail scissor right now. Cut your nails extremely short. Repeat every couple of days until habit weans.
i know u said u tried nail polish, but i’m not sure which kind you meant. i used to bite my nails a long time ago, and we got a special nail polish that has a very disgusting taste, and it was specifically made for this purpose- to stop nail biting. if this is not the kind of nail polish you were talking about- look into it. i haven’t bitten my nails once since i used that.
I think there is an over the counter product called “thums”, it is meant to stop thumb sucking, but the idea is the same with nail biting. It tastes horrible and you would probably sooner eat your shoes than suck your thumb with this stuff on it.
I used regular clear nail polish which helped me stop my nail biting. My doctor at the time suggested duofilm (or its generic equivilants) which is made for warts. You dont want to chew on that stuff, but he claimed it was harmless to use on your nails. The nail polish worked so I didnt have to try the duofilm. Cant tell you if it works.
The title of this thread is Help With Biting Nails. I can help all of you bite your nails. I bite mine so well, they look like a perfect manicure, always.
Health- nail biting is disgusting and nauseating.
Smoking is too. Please don’t turn away the conversation.
Pashuteh Yid, your post is very cute!
It reminds me of a joke:
You can pick your friends,
And you cabb pick your nose,
BUT, you can’t pick your friend”s nose!
I once heard that someone who bites his nails cant be Eider Kedushen at a wedding because that would mean he might have been Michalell shabbos!
MAYBE that thought will disturb you enough to wana stop!
Aishes Chayil, I hear what your saying, bt I said above:
I was doing it, (with a little peeking here and there, but then I’d stop myself) until Rosh HaShana came. During davening, my fingers starting bothering me and my hand started going to my mouth. I kept on pushing myself back, but my fingers were rreally bothering me. (I can not explain this “bothering”. It is very weird…) I think I even got a piece of nail off on R”H R”L.
THAT was Rosh HaShana! There is something in biting nails, that once you start, you NEED to contine.
Smartcookie – Not to the nail-biter or the smoker. Everyone has bad habits -some are just more noticeable than others.
Look, the nails have to come off somehow. I don’t think biting is any more disgusting than using a clippers. Just don’t do it in public, properly dispose of the nails, and wash your hands afterwards.
My number one gross-out complaint is about people who put dirty tissues on tables in shul or leave them in shenders in yeshivos. They should go straight to the pocket. Who wants to put his hands on a wet table where somebody just blew his nose. In addition, one should wash his hands after blowing, or getting them sticky with food.
The gemara says it is very wrong to gross someone out and gives two examples. One who spits or kills a lice in the presence of another (Chagiga, I believe).
the problem with biting nails as opposed to clipping is Shabbos Kodesh
biting is an irresistible habit and is very likely to lead to chillul Shabbos
putting tissues in the pocket is also a problem on Shabbos, if there is no eruv, as again one may well come to be michalel Shabbos
Mod -80, I know you’re a doc, but a poisek also? The Mishna Berurah says if you bite your nails and not use a scizzors it’s mutter. Some say this is only b’derech aaroy, not if you do this all the time. So it’s ossur to bite your nails on Shabbos if the purpose is to have short nails. S”A Simon 328 Seif 28 says if you pop a pimple to heal it -it’s ossur, but if you do it because you want to remove the stuff inside (because it bothers you), then it’s mutter. The M.B. explains a melacha sheh’ain tzricha l’gufa is only ossur md’rabbonim and with pain the Rabbonim never assured. If you bite your nails because you’re nervous and it calms you down, this would be exactly the same as a pimple. I think by most people nail biting is a form of OCD. You have the obsession and then you have the compulsion to bite.
health, so youre a Posek also?
Mod -80, I’m not a doc or a poisek; but I heard from one of the gedolei Poskim in our time that everybody has to be a poisek for themselves and sometimes their family.
see MB 340:2
see the 39 melachos pages 673-680
most Poskim as far as i can tell rule it assur de Rabbonin at least. in certain circumstances assur d’Oraisa
Rav Shimshon Pinchus calls it EVEN DURING THE WEEK assur as an action that will certainly lead to chillul Shabbos
im not qualified to enter into a Halachic discussion, if someone else wants to argue in lumbdus with you, please do.
Rav Pinchus was just quoting the Chazon Ish. It can only be ossur if your intention is to have shorter nails and this is the way you make your nails shorter during the week also, i.e. you bite them as opposed to using a scizzors.
1. Mod -80, I know you’re a doc, but a poisek also?
followed by 2. Mod -80, I’m not a doc or a poisek; but I heard from one of the gedolei Poskim in our time that everybody has to be a poisek for themselves and sometimes their family.
okay, i see
Cut (or bite) your nails real short before shabbos. This way there is nothing to bite on shabbos.
this is what Rav Pinchus said and this is what he held.
ask your Rav if you are still unsure
unless someone who is knowledgeable in Halachah would like to enter into this discussion it is closed
i dont want anyone here to think a possible chilul Shabbos is mutar based on a hediot persons interpretation of Halacha
In other words -I don’t have to be a poisek for the world to decide for myself what to do! My heter is for me, if anybody else wants to use it -that’s up to them. If they want to ask their Rabbi first, that’s their progative.
apushatayid
Cut (or bite) your nails real short before shabbos. This way there is nothing to bite on shabbos.
Don’t worry, I don’t need to cut my nails before Shabbos, they are too short to cut! And even if I bite them very, very short, I still will bite my skin. Its a big problem!
da -Instead of feeling guilty about it, just tell yourself I’ll bite if I want and I won’t bite if I want. I just don’t feel like biting now, I’ll bite later. And keep telling yourself this until you don’t have the urge to bite anymore. The more you say to yourself -I really shouldn’t be biting- the more you want to bite.
Health, Iv’e been biting for so many years. I always bit when I wanted. Thats not going to make me stop?
When biting nails, one doesn’t realize that they’re biting. It’s not a matter of thinking”do I want to bite or not”.
The person usually realizes later what they were doing.
The Power of the Subconscious Mind- book whose name tells you what’s happening
I’m probably tied with you in amount of years. If I cared like you do – I would think about the biting. Before I put my fingers in my mouth -I would say to myself -I want to bite now, but I’ll just bite later. I won’t say to myself I’m not doing this because xyz (because it’s wrong etc.), I would say I have no qualms about biting, however I just don’t feel like doing it now -I’ll do it later. Just keep pushing yourself off. This way you can fight your psychological addiction. You can’t fight it head on, your mind is too strong.
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