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Hi, any ideas for what hebrew phrases from tanach you would want to have engraved on a wedding/ engagement ring?
thanks!
Is this before or after the wedding? Cause the wedding ring should be plain
I would not get them engraved as the resale value will drop…
Um… harei at mekudeshes li?
Or anything from Shir HaShirim, really…
Ohhh, now I really really love this idea. If whoever I end up marrying is reading this, remember that I want one :).
Take into account that a ring (jewelry) with 3 or more consecutive words from Tanach may not be worn into the bathroom and the like. (Consult your rav.) (Certainly Shem Hashem may not be engraved.)
When discussing the minhag to give a ring the Ben Ish Chai brings down that it should be a silver ring with the letter “heh” engraved on the inside. This is speaking about the ring at the actual chuppah, not an engagement ring. I think he actually brings it down in last week’s parsha if you want to see on the inside.
I got my wife a ring like that for our wedding, but according to instructions I got from one of my rebbeim in yeshiva we also got it square shaped on the outside and circle on the inside (i guess square on the inside wouldn’t fit very well :p ). I’m not sure where he got that from but it looks very unique as I’m guessing most women don’t wear square rings.
Engraving should not go all the way through. A ring needs to be solid at the core. My sister has “sahmtich k’chotam al libi,” on hers. Many people have (especially this month of Elul) Ani l’Dodi v’Dodi Li.” My son and daughter-in-law decided hers should be plain.
I think the ring I gave Eees had “18KT” or “24KT” (or something like that) engraved on the inside. 🙂
The Wolf
Mods didnt let my original post thru. R Moshe was being mesader once and the ring was from her/his mother and it said “mamzer” on it. He paskend aid echad isnt neeman and on with the show.
Oomis, are you referring to the engagement ring, or wedding band (kiddushin ring)?
Wolf, there are actually mesadrei kiddushin who don’t even like 14k (or 18k etc.) engraved. But don’t worry, that doesn’t make you a kofer or anything. 🙂
My Mesader Kiddushin didn’t seem to mind.
In any event, even if it is engraved with that marking, there is no doubt that it is still worth (more than) a shavah p’rutah.
The Wolf
Mine didn’t either; I think the majority don’t.
The issue isn’t shaveh p’rutah, it’s s’michas daas. IOW, if the marked karatage is wrong, there could be an issue. She may assume, for instance, that the ring is worth $150, and only be meksbeles kiddushin on that assumption, yet the ring is only worth $18, so the kiddushin would be invalid.
The issue isn’t shaveh p’rutah, it’s s’michas daas. IOW, if the marked karatage is wrong, there could be an issue. She may assume, for instance, that the ring is worth $150, and only be meksbeles kiddushin on that assumption, yet the ring is only worth $18, so the kiddushin would be invalid.
Easily fixed by (a) ascertaining that it’s worth a minimum of a shavah pruta and (b) asking the kallah under the chuppah if she accepts it for marriage whatever its value is (subject to the shavah pruta minimum).
The Wolf
Oomis, are you referring to the engagement ring, or wedding band (kiddushin ring)?”
Kiddushin. After the chuppah, the ring may be engraved and cut through and through, to whatever extent desired. Before the chuppah, I remember the rabbonim examining the ring to be sure there were no holes going through it. I did not understand why, but they said it has to be solid for the harei aht part.
Wolf, I don’t disagree, but I guess that can be a little confusing, so their way is a bit simpler (at the chupah; it’s harder to get such a ring). I was once an eid kiddushin, and the mesader (a well known posek) simply asked us if the ring was worth at least a p’rutah. I have no doubt that the other way (no karatage marking) is simply a chumrah.
Oomis, I asked because the OP was referring to engagement. Your mind is probably more on kiddushin now. 🙂 Mazel Tov.
Hebrew ring inscriptions/ engraving for wedding/ engagement ring
They probably wanted it to be solid so it’s easier for the kallah to get an accurate idea of the value (see my previous post).
Oomis, I asked because the OP was referring to engagement. Your mind is probably more on kiddushin now. 🙂 Mazel Tov.”
You’re absolutely right. And thanks. Although my mind right now is on what in the world am I going to fit into to wear for Shabbos Sheva Brachos, after eating at the wedding and the two previous SB dinners this week!!!!
This isn’t from Tanach, but this would look great in Hebrew on a ring:
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was waiting for someone to write that, good twist with the hebrew.
I actually thought about deleting it but hoped it would go unmentioned. Now that you went and mentioned it, you have been strike with the curse of the edit – 29
you know i meant no harm. gimme my power’s back i’ll only do good with them.
(btw there really WASN’T anything wrong with what i wrote. even in hebrew. your move)
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