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  • #1967653
    954chanie
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    There’s a bill that is in the State Senate that was presented by congressman Mike Caruso to allow Hazolah to work in Florida. Right now they are not allowed to help and must call 911 right away. There is a vote on it tomorrow Monday April 26. We must make sure that the vote goes thru.
    There is a video of Mike Caruso explaining why it is important to make this bill law. We must send emails and call ASAP so that it passes tomorrow. There is a huge group against it! Please email the Senator in charge [email protected]

    #1967753
    ☕️coffee addict
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    You really think it’s not going to pass?

    #1967873
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    Participant

    why are they against?

    #1967868
    954chanie
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    I posted this to a Jewish FB page and one of us asked why it’s needed! So yes, I think we need to make sure it passes. I’m good friends with the wife of the man in the video who told me there is a lot of opposition to it. It’s all about money, of course. 911 gets a lot of money and if there’s a sort of competition they aren’t happy.

    #1967896
    bk613
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    An ambulance company bills insurance when they transport someone to the hospital. If Hatzola (or another company) starts transporting the city will lose money.
    It’s a perfectly legitimate question to ask why Hatzola is needed. If the local 911 service has good response times and does a good job (I have no clue if they do or not) is it the best idea to raise millions of dollars to fund Hatzola? Maybe the money is better used elsewhere.

    #1967904
    DovidBT
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    It passed the House by a vote of 98 to 12, so the odds are good that it will be passed by the Senate.

    For reference, it’s HB 805 – Volunteer Ambulance Services

    #1968015
    954chanie
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    It’s funny to me that a Catholic man understands the need for Hazolah in Florida and all the rules of Shomra Negia etc. but people on this site.. don’t.. My mother A”H used Hazolah alot in her final years and if she couldn’t she probably would have left us sooner. Hazolah Volunteer lived 2 houses away, came within seconds, who knows how long 911 would have taken. The Hazolah Volunteer was extremely respectful of my mother’s wishes and my mother in general. 911 would never have treated her the same. Hazolah understands the needs of the Frum polulation, 911? Why would they? That’s why we need to have Hazolah in Florida especially since the Frum communities in Florida are growing. 2100 homes near Tampa for Chasidis families? Imagine 911 responding to that community?

    #1968027
    954chanie
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    OH and do the medics of 911 speak Yiddish???

    #1968030
    commonsaychel
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    @954, intersting half of the no votes came from Jews in South Florida

    #1968073
    954chanie
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    It’s terrible! I, for the life of me, do not understand their kup! Not just about this issue but all the issues. They remind me of the secular Jews of Germany in the 30s. Our parents a”h and grandparents a”h went through the same times not that long ago. Why don’t they see it? That’s been my most major concern these last few years.

    #1968070
    bk613
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    What rules of shomer negia? You admit yourself that a male hatzolah member treated your elderly mother (as he should and is allowed to). Do you think 911 EMT’s/paramedics are going to inappropriately touch women? You can argue that with 911 since you have a pretty good chance of getting a female EMT/paramedic maybe in this regard 911 should be your preferred option.

    “who knows how long 911 would have taken”
    The County knows. They keep track of this info.

    “OH and do the medics of 911 speak Yiddish???”
    On the rare occasion that a patient only speaks yiddish and no has one else to translate maybe the Hatzlah EMT who speaks yiddish (apparently now all of them do) can translate.

    “911 would never have treated her the same.”
    When happened when your mother needed to go to the hospital? Did the 911 responders treat her poorly and disrespectfully?

    Hatzalah was initially founded in response to the city’s/911 atrocious response times. Many other volunteer ambulance services were founded in non jewish neighborhoods for the exact same reason.

    #1968190
    ☕️coffee addict
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    #1968354
    DovidBT
    Participant

    Well it passed, so you can calm down now.

    Fortunately, the Combating Public Disorder bill became law a week ago, so when the leftist mob starts protesting volunteer ambulance services, the violence will be limited.

    #1968394
    954chanie
    Participant

    Lol! Unanimous! DeSantis needs to sign it!

    #1968547
    954chanie
    Participant

    Ok, so let’s talk something else.. What if a yid dies.. should 911 be the one to handle the body?
    It doesn’t matter now. It has passed, and it is now up to our Governor to sign or not, and it’s confusing to me that yiddem do not want Hazolah in their neighborhood? I don’t understand that, but then again, there is alot I do not understand in these times.

    #1968578
    DovidBT
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    it’s confusing to me that yiddem do not want Hazolah in their neighborhood

    Is it the non-religious Jews who don’t want Hatzalah? If so, it’s not surprising.

    #1968584
    ujm
    Participant

    How was Hatzalah of Florida operating until now, before this new law?

    #1968608
    DovidBT
    Participant

    How was Hatzalah of Florida operating until now, before this new law?

    The bill wasn’t needed simply for Hatzalah to exist. The bill authorizes them to use flashing red lights and sirens on their vehicles and to respond to emergencies:

    Volunteer Ambulance Services: Authorizing certain medical staff of a volunteer ambulance service to use red lights on a privately owned vehicle under certain circumstances; authorizing vehicles of volunteer ambulance services to show or display red lights and operate emergency lights and sirens under certain circumstances; authorizing privately owned vehicles belonging to certain medical staff of a volunteer ambulance service to display or use red warning signals under certain circumstances; providing that county and municipal governments may not limit, prohibit, or prevent volunteer ambulance services from responding to emergencies or providing emergency medical services or transport within their respective jurisdictions, etc.

    #1968617
    ujm
    Participant

    Hatzalah was operating in Florida until now by driving an ambulance with critically ill patients while driving at regular traffic flow, stopping at lights and not speeding?

    #1971310
    54736
    Participant

    They weren’t allowed to transport patients at all. They would come and care for patients, everything up to the point of transporting to a hospital. (And oftentimes, all before 911 even showed up.)

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