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December 9, 2013 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #611515gavra_at_workParticipant
Copied from Crosscurrents, by Marvin Schick:
The following is the concluding paragraph of an article in the current issue of Mishpacha:
If the article was written by an obscure figure in Jewish life, concern about its extremism would be ameliorated by the acknowledgement that the writer was speaking his own mind and few would pay heed. The author of the Mishpacha piece is Jonathan Rosenblum, deservedly a respected writer, and the sentiments that he expresses are shared by a great many in the Orthodox community. This adds both to the impact of the article and to the obligation to call the writer to task for his indulgence in paranoia and worse.
Comparisons with Hitler and the Holocaust are always odious and are to be avoided. What Rosenblum has written is odious and disgusting journalism. When such comparisons are made, it is necessary to protest.
What I write here has nothing to do with criticism of President Obama or his policy toward Iran. Reasonable people can certainly take issue with the President. There are boundaries, however and we religious Jews should not transgress by indulging in paranoid thinking.
My short answer: Perhaps in Israel, the answer is yes. Maybe it is something in the water, but (IMHO) the past few months have shown that there is certainly something very wrong going on there. Maybe the Satmer Rov is right, and Yidden can’t live in EY due to Sinas Chinum until Moshiach is already here. I don’t know, but know that I’m torn.
December 9, 2013 9:11 pm at 9:11 pm #991977Shopping613 🌠ParticipantHashem wont destroy his Bais Hamiksash. If anything happens, you’ll find me at the kosel.
December 9, 2013 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #991978gavra_at_workParticipantShopping613: That’s not my concern. Netzach Yisroel Lo Yishaker. (Although there are neutron bombs) I’m more worried that having our own land is pushing off Moshiach rather than bringing him closer. Does having a state promote Sinas Chinam?
December 9, 2013 9:28 pm at 9:28 pm #991979badchradyjewParticipantHave u asked hasem to save the jews yet or went straight to YWN.net to complain
December 9, 2013 9:32 pm at 9:32 pm #991980popa_bar_abbaParticipantI’ve lost my sensei.
December 9, 2013 9:37 pm at 9:37 pm #991981☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBadchradyjew, I think you’re missing Gavra’s point, although I suppose tefillah is appropriate for his issue as well. I’ll try to have extra kavana during Sholom Rov/Sim Shalom.
December 9, 2013 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm #991982gavra_at_workParticipantI’ll try to have extra kavana during Sholom Rov/Sim Shalom.
Thanks. I’ve tried to do the same, but feel more and more discouraged as time goes on and more Sinah (even Charaidi on Charaidi) comes out.
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December 9, 2013 11:40 pm at 11:40 pm #991983writersoulParticipantGodwin’s Law at its best.
I do my best to ignore those kinds of articles, but that is ridiculous.
Honestly, though, as there’s been a state for over 65 years and the current Iranian form of government for only 34, it’s impossible to truly trace this back to the formation of the state- even if we were to, we have to take things as they come (the state is a fact of existence by now) and just daven. We can’t spend our time ruing the past- we need to rather face the future.
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